Challenge 70

[Krag]

What do you think of it?

I think it's very unfun and unlike the rest of the game. I spent a few days going through all the challenges, some were more fun than others but overall they were short and to the point.
70 on the other hand is really long and combines the worst parts of the game (which for me would be zero G and saint power) into this very frustrating challenge that I don't see myself beating, which makes me sad because I wanted to get my 100% back (on the other hand I'm glad they're not giving achievements to just anyone).
I wish it was kept as a joke challenge.

That was my rant!

[Deltaflame]

I haven't played nearly enough to get to that point but from what I've seen on youtube, the fight seems brutal. The guy I watched used the saints tongue to manipulate the zero G to a very high degree, and he only used the saints power when forced to make a quick movement or to stop.
Otherwise, seems like you just have to grind it.

[Special Thanks, You]

I agree. I don't like challenge 70 at all. I did all the other challenges and cheated challenge 70 because it's so foreign to what rain world is and I too wanted my 100% back. I played rain world for my open world survival game, not whatever that is. Also basically requiring the player to use Saints ascension power to manipulate the low-grav is too video gamey for something that's trying to "realistic".

[Zed9876]

I have been trying this challenge for too long now, and am very close to cheating it because I want my 100% back, honestly the first three stages are actually pretty neat and not too hard.... but number four... to me it is the stage that ruins the whole thing, the combination of the over-sized ascension death square and the beam of shove (that has a really scuffed hit-box if you're near the cringe dispenser), really just ruins the fun.



stage 5 is not awful, but because those zappy bubbles stick around after it becomes possible to ascend SOS dying at that point generates large quantities of rage.

stage 6 is not too bad either, but just like stage 5 the bubbles stick around and kill you when you can ascend SOS (This is where I died by the way, haven't got that close since).

THE TRUE PAIN is that 4 is RNG ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and makes me spend 10 runs just trying to get to 5 and then because I have been spending my time and effort trying to pass 4 I completely lose all my muscle memory for 5.

I completely agree that this is not in the spirit of Rain World, IMO if they had made the level of challenge for 4,5,6 similar to 1,2,3 then i'd defend this boss fight for being a pretty neat and challenging task, but in its current state it's rather insulting.

Not to mention that there are a total of *drum-roll* 2 rooms in saints campaign that use zero G and these are both right at the end of the campaign, with no hazards or enemies. so. you get almost no practice with this combination of gimmicks before this fight.



Thanks Downpour for all the cool content, but my one rolling criticism so far would be that sometimes adding more leap lizards to underhang or making a out of pocket hard bullet hell boss-fight does not make the game more challenging, it just makes it harder.


TL;DR : Challenge 70 does not challenge your knowledge of Rain World mechanics, and disregards what makes Rain World unique and interesting, it is just an unreasonably hard boss-fight.

[Krag]

Originally posted by Zed9876:

I have been trying this challenge for too long now, and am very close to cheating it because I want my 100% back, honestly the first three stages are actually pretty neat and not too hard.... but number four... to me it is the stage that ruins the whole thing, the combination of the over-sized ascension death square and the beam of shove (that has a really scuffed hit-box if you're near the cringe dispenser), really just ruins the fun.

I cheated it just so I could go back to expeditions, cheating almost killed my motivation to ever boot up the game again and it took me two days to finally start an expedition but in retrospect it was exactly what I needed.
I'll probably try to do it legit later without the feeling that it's getting in the way of the content I like but for now I'm perfectly happy with playing the part of the game that I've been enjoying since release and that Downpour perfected.

[Zed9876]

Originally posted by Krag:

Originally posted by Zed9876:

I have been trying this challenge for too long now, and am very close to cheating it because I want my 100% back, honestly the first three stages are actually pretty neat and not too hard.... but number four... to me it is the stage that ruins the whole thing, the combination of the over-sized ascension death square and the beam of shove (that has a really scuffed hit-box if you're near the cringe dispenser), really just ruins the fun.

I cheated it just so I could go back to expeditions, cheating almost killed my motivation to ever boot up the game again and it took me two days to finally start an expedition but in retrospect it was exactly what I needed.
I'll probably try to do it legit later without the feeling that it's getting in the way of the content I like but for now I'm perfectly happy with playing the part of the game that I've been enjoying since release and that Downpour perfected.

It's a shame that this is even something I'm considering, since i absolutely love this game, but I get the feeling that your decision is probably the best for maintaining sanity.

[Morquentyz]

how to cheat this challenge?

[Zed9876]

Originally posted by Sussy Baka:

how to cheat this challenge?

You can enable invincibility through devtools (I think), however I used a mod called "Saint Unlocked" that allows you to give him infinite karma juice.

[RCMidas]

Honestly, the worst part of this challenge is phase 5. Some precision movement is required and once you can regularly get there (phase 4 is very RNG-reliant but otherwise no worse than the previous phases) it's just remembering that the safe zone moves in a figure-8 pattern and to be ready to correct your trajectory. Took me a few hours to get that bit done.

The final phase is, interestingly enough, nothing to write home about by comparison. Got through that one on my first try. It was just getting there that was the real problem.

[Morquentyz]

Originally posted by Zed9876:

Originally posted by Sussy Baka:

how to cheat this challenge?

You can enable invincibility through devtools (I think), however I used a mod called "Saint Unlocked" that allows you to give him infinite karma juice.

Thanks

[Douknodefox]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2939988977 this might help make you a gaemir!

[milorussell8]

Originally posted by Special Thanks, You:

I agree. I don't like challenge 70 at all. I did all the other challenges and cheated challenge 70 because it's so foreign to what rain world is and I too wanted my 100% back. I played rain world for my open world survival game, not whatever that is. Also basically requiring the player to use Saints ascension power to manipulate the low-grav is too video gamey for something that's trying to "realistic".

how to cheat the challenge ive been going at this for the better part of 3 hours lol

[Zed9876]

Originally posted by milorussell8:

Originally posted by Special Thanks, You:

I agree. I don't like challenge 70 at all. I did all the other challenges and cheated challenge 70 because it's so foreign to what rain world is and I too wanted my 100% back. I played rain world for my open world survival game, not whatever that is. Also basically requiring the player to use Saints ascension power to manipulate the low-grav is too video gamey for something that's trying to "realistic".

how to cheat the challenge ive been going at this for the better part of 3 hours lol

Either use Saint Unlocked, or Enable invincibility through devtools (although I'm not sure how to enable it)

[milorussell8]

Originally posted by Zed9876:

Originally posted by milorussell8:

how to cheat the challenge ive been going at this for the better part of 3 hours lol

Either use Saint Unlocked, or Enable invincibility through devtools (although I'm not sure how to enable it)

no thats cheating I would never do that

[Zed9876]

Originally posted by milorussell8:

no thats cheating I would never do that

of course, No-one would ever do that.

[RCMidas]

Originally posted by milorussell8:

no thats cheating I would never do that

And yet you were the one to ask how. I get it, it's a bloody difficult challenge, but the first four phases are the actually hard part - keeping yourself calm, focused, and determined - so that when you start to regularly hit the annoying part that is phase 5, you can simply remember how the safe zone pattern moves, and get through that in just an hour or two. The last phase is nothing to write home about by comparison.