gourmand dialogue change suggestion *SPOILERS*

[čmal poter]

I believe the information five pebbles gives you about how to beat the campaign is very confusing currently .
Given the fact that the player has had to beat the game as the regular slug cat, whose ending requires going into the void sea, the dialogue creates confusion by not specifically saying that the player should not delve deeper than subterranean to find the new zone.
In fact, he says that the gourmand should encourage others to ALSO go west and off into the wastes below (possibly just like the white slug cat, into the void sea).

Another thing that is unclear is the fact that he says that he unlocked the gate at the outskirts of his territory and that the gourmand should traverse the underground tunnels to get there, but how are we supposed that the gate is not for example the gate connecting shaded citadel and the industrial complex? You instinctively go to five pebbles and probably do not know which gate he is referring to, not to mention that shaded citadel and the leg are connected by underground tunnels.

Now, he does say that his intended purpose will not be of much help to the gourmand, HOWEVER, I assumed that the gourmand represented a sort of hard mode, and that it should have to earn the mark of ascension by visiting echoes, due to the fact that it is so gluttonous and attached to this world. It was frustrating when I found out that by ascending, you do not beat the gourmand and unlock the other slug cats.

My suggestion would be something like "Go west, no deeper than the underground tunnels at the outskirts of my territory, there you will find the gate to the outside world unlocked"

Thank you for reading this

[White Rider]

Originally posted by čmal poter:

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FP's directions to Gourmand are perfectly clear.

"♥♥♥♥ off, fat boi, and tell all the rest of your kind to ♥♥♥♥ off too.
To the west off you must ♥♥♥♥, and keep ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ off until you cant ♥♥♥♥ off any more. There's a gate that was closed to you. Now that gate is open. ♥♥♥♥ off out the gate, and don't let it hit you on your rotund ass on the way out.

Plus, for the people that took the time to unlock the extra scugs by completing the base game ones first, even the people that have done so already before... if they went down to SB via FA, then there's a good chance they will have found the mysterious extra gate that wasn't there before already. that part of the map was changed. so people that know the area might recognise that and explore a little bit, and new players are probably going to explore the region anyway so they will likely find it as they are going through.

[XxX_Micheal_Rodriques_XxX]

i just talked to pebbles and had no idea what that he means
where are the tunnels in the leg?

[Jevmen]

main issue is ppl who never replayed the vanilla campaigns after DP or straight skipped the first campaign and cheat unlock it.

To the main slugcats FP says "go west past the farm arrays and deep into the earth" this will lead to unavoidably finding the locked gate to Gourmand's region since is next to the shelter at the bottom of the ravine and serves as a way to stop players who keep going west and makes players wonder whats behind it, similar to the gate atop the wall.

The moment in FP chamber when you see the hologram of the locked gate changing to a normal gate makes it clear as water where you should go, not to mention he points you west, which is just perfect advice.

Also FP literally says "you dont seem to care about ascending at all" and doesnt even give you the karma upgrade, so its very clear you have no business to do in Depths.

Also when he shows a map of his whole region you can see that the locked gates are making a ring wall at the absolute outskirts of the region (not to mention you can see the 2 rectangles in the middle which if you think about it for a moment are clearely FP and LTTM iterator cans, which essentially makes it very clear that you must get very very far from FP (how are you gonna leave this land if you are still wandering near his can), also underground tunnels is clearely subterranean, maybe drainage system if you think about it too hard.

And no Shaded and the leg are not connected by an underground tunnel at all, the memory crypts is an empty dead field.

The hints here were pretty cool and its very straight, even if he didnt mention west at all most ppl would still find it since thats a gate most players have seen before.