Warhammer 40,000: Armageddon

Warhammer 40,000: Armageddon

selanderk May 21, 2015 @ 2:53pm
Is this the end?
After seeing the forum start to more or less die and the newest DLC being included in a 3 for the price of 2 sale it got me thinking.

If previous DLC was selling then the newest one would sell too. The fact they are bundling the DLC all 3 for the price of 2 made me think. If sales were good the 3rd DLC would sell. There is no point in giving something away for a fairly new game. That made me realize that sales of DLC may not be what they were expecting and they are trying to compensate for that.

Given the fact that DLC is being given away for people who own none (Of the DLC) is this game selling up to expectations? Is this the end of the DLC? Will resources be moves to Panzer Corps and the Soviet front? Is this a good thing or a bad thing? It irks me because I bought the DLC and didn't play them for the most part. I could have waited and saved money. In any case this can't be a positive sign of things to come can it?
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Harukage May 24, 2015 @ 5:53pm 
Pff. We love the sight of inqisitor's and GK grandmaster's heads in our mess hall. Haven't had so much fun since Angron and his chaps decided make a pajamas party on Armageddon.
On a serious note, Ghesmei Kysnaros was an real case of idiot. A proud and arrogant idiot wich is a lot worse. Just a simple fact that almost all inquisitors present at conflict saw his assassination as the best solution, and Grey Knight were not realy intent on folowing him shows it in the best way possible. For all it is worth he only made SW position stronger, and made Inquisition look incompetent.
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Kadrush May 26, 2015 @ 4:31am 
Hm....Grey Knights ingame would be so nice...

Also, as far as it seems the license allows them to cover all 3 wars and this game could easly be expanded to cover to void war...sounds interesting...Fleets Clashing...Ork Roks and Space Hulks VS the Imperial Navy and SM Battle Barges....
DarkChaplain May 26, 2015 @ 4:35am 
Void Battles would need changed gameplay mechanics, though
Harukage May 26, 2015 @ 5:57am 
Originally posted by Kadrush:
Hm....Grey Knights ingame would be so nice...

Also, as far as it seems the license allows them to cover all 3 wars and this game could easly be expanded to cover to void war...sounds interesting...Fleets Clashing...Ork Roks and Space Hulks VS the Imperial Navy and SM Battle Barges....
Devs have license for the wars not for what had happened after. You will get a pack of GK termies in the final mission of SW campaign at best.
Also Battlefleet Gothic: Armada. Though i am kinda disappointed developers are going for RTS experience rather then classic form.
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DarkChaplain May 26, 2015 @ 6:36am 
Really, we as users can't say what the license entails. We know that it spans the three Armageddon Wars, because we were told so by the devs. Depending on the specific phrasing of the license and all that, the direct fallout of the wars might be covered too - we just don't know as we are not privy to the contracts in question.

Besides, the Void War during the Third War would also be included in the license, logically thinking, at that is definitely part of the Armageddon Wars and Ghazghkull's fleet and the Imperials in space certainly dished it out throughout the whole of the war on the ground, so there might be room enough for void warfare to come in the future, if the devs want to do it and they believe that their engine can handle it with some modifications (space battles are less immediate than ground combat, where bullets hit within instants).

I'd certainly like to see Helbrecht and co defend Armageddon from further assaults.
Beatles Eternally May 26, 2015 @ 8:07am 
It's too bad that GW is so greedy - and GW has been like this for YEARS. GW doesn't seem to realize that there is an untapped market here in the sense that many of us because of other commitments can't get together with a bunch of people to play the physical games. It's shortsighted really and truth be told, I was shocked at the amount of content GW allowed in the DoW series. Warhammer Quest doesn't look like IT will see any further expansions either.

GW,These games are NOT going to impact your tabletop market. But you will LOSE potential customers who want the tabletop experience but cannot play it.

No Steam Workshop support is especially inane considering that Armageddon has an EDITOR.

Skirmish modes are STANDARD for strategy games from the very beginning. GOG recently released the venerable Fantasy General and that "ancient" game has a skirmish mode WITH random maps. Age of Wonders II, Shadow Magic, and III are all doing well because of the skirmish modes and the ability in AoW3 to SHARE maps and mods.

GW makes great games but adopts an anachronistic and almost paranoid business model and at some point gamers ARE going to vote no with their wallets. I understand IP rights but why GW is so d*****d draconian is beyond belief.

Loosen up GW and listen to your fans please?
Harukage May 26, 2015 @ 9:16am 
Well, GW is rather strict when it comes to licenses, but yes we do not know the exact wording ,so...
However, you can't really call the Months of Shame a war per se. Yes, few SW ships got crippled when navy parley protocol was broken, some GKs died, Grimnar called Kysnaros names, GK went all "meh", Inquisition started to plot Kysnaros's death, but Grimanr killed the ♥♥♥♥♥ before it happened. Then old metal box Bjorn came out of closet and said "peace bros". And that is it. Nothing really epic or worthy of a game. It is the good novel material but not game one.
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Kadrush May 27, 2015 @ 3:43pm 
Cant wait for me...uh...i mean...Leman Russ to return....
Harukage May 27, 2015 @ 4:07pm 
I just want my thunderwolf cavalry, wolf scouts, dreadnaughts with great wolf claws or great axe&blizard shield combo. And yes, Hellfrost weapons. Also i will kill for a Bjorn the Fell-handed unit.
DarkChaplain May 28, 2015 @ 7:00am 
Bjorn didn't take part in the Armageddon Wars. He was sitting in stasis on Fenris.
Naughty Mouse Jun 19, 2015 @ 12:42pm 
To make this game perfect, they need to add a dynamic campaign with maps and such. The chained campaigns are ok, but get stale soon.
Panzerknacker Jun 20, 2015 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by Naughty Mouse:
To make this game perfect, they need to add a dynamic campaign with maps and such. The chained campaigns are ok, but get stale soon.

+1 Great idea
Anapoda Jun 21, 2015 @ 1:21am 
Yes, this is the end, they are moving on to other projects obviously.
Lordzimoa Jun 21, 2015 @ 2:09am 
No we are not.

There is much more coming, this is the start of the game series, not the end.

Our licence covers all three wars on Armageddon, plenty to add in content and we plan to improve the game and add new features as well. We cannot give any details at this point, just that it is as I quoted Churchill a few posts above:

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

Winston Churchill
Serious Business Jul 14, 2015 @ 11:54pm 
Originally posted by selanderk:
There is no point in giving something away for a fairly new game.

The most important thing to a new game is to gain momentum by attracting loads of enthusiastic players. So far a pricewall has been raised for anyone but the most hardcore 40k fans and the DLC really isn't helping.

How I would do it: Sell the game cheaper, don't nickle and dime your customers with races that should have been in the game in the first place, build a large player base and THEN sell a major expansion to the story to cash in. I mean come on, they're digital goods. You're better off selling to 100k people than to 1k at a higher price, especially if you're going to allow mods and fan campaigns at some point.
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Date Posted: May 21, 2015 @ 2:53pm
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