How do you upgrade followers to gold?

[SCHIZOMALICE]

Loving the game so far but it's very hard since I don't know how to upgrade followers to gold?

[Gillias]

It varies. Wife and Faraj can be upgraded via Fate's Ledger, with points you accrue by breaking cards and making achievements. Wife can also be upgraded by using a silver piece of jewelry to break a wife's resentment.

Various characters get upgraded as their storylines play out. Lumera upgrades to silver if you interrupt her ascension ritual, Qais upgrades if you restore his title, Adila upgrades to silver if you send her on enough combat quests and she is satisfied 2 times during the "Girl examines herself" event, and *possibly* to gold if she gets to "slay" a dragon (I don't remember how that concluded).
Arzuna (unlocked via Fate's ledger) has absurd upgrade requirements: to silver is 5 influence, a silver charisma item and bronze charisma item that add up to 5 charisma, and 10 gold. To gold is 10 influence, *10* charisma-worth of gold items (only possible via 2 items I've seen so far, one requiring you to sacrifice a character and the other requiring 30 gold), and 15 gold.

I accidentally upgraded the Hamar brothers into one silver tier character via dark gathering (sending them together as cultists fuses them into a two-headed ogre. They get double weapon and accessory slots but lose attire and animal slots, kind of a mixed bag).

I'm not sure all, or even most, characters get to gold, but a lot of them end up upgraded if you pursue their storylines. These usually open up when you hit certain thresholds of influence, notoriety, renown, insight, and infamy, and you'll get a notice they want to say something. Drag them to methinks and things will start rolling.

[Greg Bahm]

Originally posted by Gillias:

I accidentally upgraded the Hamar brothers into one silver tier character via dark gathering (sending them together as cultists fuses them into a two-headed ogre. They get double weapon and accessory slots but lose attire and animal slots, kind of a mixed bag).

Oh for real? That's hilarious. I thought those two were only good for breaking bronze bloodshed cards or guarding birdcages.

[Gillias]

Originally posted by Greg Bahm:

Oh for real? That's hilarious. I thought those two were only good for breaking bronze bloodshed cards or guarding birdcages.

They helped fill the ranks during the final invasion on the palace, when you need a lot of combatants. Plus they're 2/5 characters I know of with innate animal handling, so they can use equips most others can't (I get so many animals in my runs). That's why I find the double headed ogre a mixed bag, since they become a lot less versatile.

[sffrrrom]

Originally posted by Gillias:

It varies. Wife and Faraj can be upgraded via Fate's Ledger, with points you accrue by breaking cards and making achievements. Wife can also be upgraded by using a silver piece of jewelry to break a wife's resentment.

Various characters get upgraded as their storylines play out. Lumera upgrades to silver if you interrupt her ascension ritual, Qais upgrades if you restore his title, Adila upgrades to silver if you send her on enough combat quests and she is satisfied 2 times during the "Girl examines herself" event, and *possibly* to gold if she gets to "slay" a dragon (I don't remember how that concluded).
Arzuna (unlocked via Fate's ledger) has absurd upgrade requirements: to silver is 5 influence, a silver charisma item and bronze charisma item that add up to 5 charisma, and 10 gold. To gold is 10 influence, *10* charisma-worth of gold items (only possible via 2 items I've seen so far, one requiring you to sacrifice a character and the other requiring 30 gold), and 15 gold.

I accidentally upgraded the Hamar brothers into one silver tier character via dark gathering (sending them together as cultists fuses them into a two-headed ogre. They get double weapon and accessory slots but lose attire and animal slots, kind of a mixed bag).

I'm not sure all, or even most, characters get to gold, but a lot of them end up upgraded if you pursue their storylines. These usually open up when you hit certain thresholds of influence, notoriety, renown, insight, and infamy, and you'll get a notice they want to say something. Drag them to methinks and things will start rolling.

EDIT: Thought there was a purchaseable 5 CHA item from the regular merchant randomly but its only 4 CHA. So unless there's a 6 CHA item out there not useful? Which seems silly. But I agree the requirements are brutal esp since you can't control when the event pops up.

What's the item you get from sacrificing someone?

[Gillias]

Originally posted by sffrrrom:

EDIT: Thought there was a purchaseable 5 CHA item from the regular merchant randomly but its only 4 CHA. So unless there's a 6 CHA item out there not useful? Which seems silly. But I agree the requirements are brutal esp since you can't control when the event pops up.

What's the item you get from sacrificing someone?

So the two items are thus:
There's an event where an inventor presents a golden bird to the sultan. Compliment it, and the sultan will insist you buy it, giving you 7 days to accrue 30 gold for it (Also a chance to break any-tier extravagance card). The bird is an animal equipment that gives 8 charisma.

The item of sacrifice I have only seen once. I *Believe* if you try to bring Mahir into your cult, she will come back later with a weapon enchantment ritual. This allows you to sacrifice any follower and add their stats to a weapon. Sacrifice someone with sufficient charisma to enhance a golden weapon, boom gold item with sufficient Charisma.

[Gillias]

Oh, edit worthy of a bump:
The combined brothers actually become a troop! This is a huge benefit and you should definitely fuse them whenever possible, I tried again just now and it took sending them to the gathering twice, I think the speaker has to have a pretty high magic value. First time was 5, second was 9. Also used a silver mystique as the magic consumable, and a nondescript cultist as a sacrifice.

Edit again: Ok so they have the troop tag but I'm not able to use them to conclude the Shama quest. Seems like *some* kind of bug is in effect. Will update on how they perform with the final invasion.

Edit part 3: They do work as a troop for the final invasion, so if you managed to piss off Riel/the Jackals and never found the wind charm or marauder troop, they'll carry you through in a pinch. They don't act like troops in any other regard though, can't use them with the troop enhancement ritual or in any of the quests that require a troop. Back to being a mixed bag, I wouldn't go perma-cult to have them but smoke 'em if you got 'em.

[Ace490]

Originally posted by sffrrrom:

Originally posted by Gillias:

It varies. Wife and Faraj can be upgraded via Fate's Ledger, with points you accrue by breaking cards and making achievements. Wife can also be upgraded by using a silver piece of jewelry to break a wife's resentment.

Various characters get upgraded as their storylines play out. Lumera upgrades to silver if you interrupt her ascension ritual, Qais upgrades if you restore his title, Adila upgrades to silver if you send her on enough combat quests and she is satisfied 2 times during the "Girl examines herself" event, and *possibly* to gold if she gets to "slay" a dragon (I don't remember how that concluded).
Arzuna (unlocked via Fate's ledger) has absurd upgrade requirements: to silver is 5 influence, a silver charisma item and bronze charisma item that add up to 5 charisma, and 10 gold. To gold is 10 influence, *10* charisma-worth of gold items (only possible via 2 items I've seen so far, one requiring you to sacrifice a character and the other requiring 30 gold), and 15 gold.

I accidentally upgraded the Hamar brothers into one silver tier character via dark gathering (sending them together as cultists fuses them into a two-headed ogre. They get double weapon and accessory slots but lose attire and animal slots, kind of a mixed bag).

I'm not sure all, or even most, characters get to gold, but a lot of them end up upgraded if you pursue their storylines. These usually open up when you hit certain thresholds of influence, notoriety, renown, insight, and infamy, and you'll get a notice they want to say something. Drag them to methinks and things will start rolling.

EDIT: Thought there was a purchaseable 5 CHA item from the regular merchant randomly but its only 4 CHA. So unless there's a 6 CHA item out there not useful? Which seems silly. But I agree the requirements are brutal esp since you can't control when the event pops up.

What's the item you get from sacrificing someone?

I think you can also buy the bouquet from the regular merchant which counts as a weapon but has +2 char. That should make it easier to raise char through equipment.

[sffrrrom]

Originally posted by Ace490:

Originally posted by sffrrrom:

EDIT: Thought there was a purchaseable 5 CHA item from the regular merchant randomly but its only 4 CHA. So unless there's a 6 CHA item out there not useful? Which seems silly. But I agree the requirements are brutal esp since you can't control when the event pops up.

What's the item you get from sacrificing someone?

I think you can also buy the bouquet from the regular merchant which counts as a weapon but has +2 char. That should make it easier to raise char through equipment.

No, for the event her CHA doesn't matter. Its the total charisma of the items you're giving her. So the two gold items must add up to 10 charisma, which is extraordinarily difficult.

[sffrrrom]

Originally posted by Gillias:

Originally posted by sffrrrom:

EDIT: Thought there was a purchaseable 5 CHA item from the regular merchant randomly but its only 4 CHA. So unless there's a 6 CHA item out there not useful? Which seems silly. But I agree the requirements are brutal esp since you can't control when the event pops up.

What's the item you get from sacrificing someone?

So the two items are thus:
There's an event where an inventor presents a golden bird to the sultan. Compliment it, and the sultan will insist you buy it, giving you 7 days to accrue 30 gold for it (Also a chance to break any-tier extravagance card). The bird is an animal equipment that gives 8 charisma.

The item of sacrifice I have only seen once. I *Believe* if you try to bring Mahir into your cult, she will come back later with a weapon enchantment ritual. This allows you to sacrifice any follower and add their stats to a weapon. Sacrifice someone with sufficient charisma to enhance a golden weapon, boom gold item with sufficient Charisma.

Thanks for that - I realized that as long as you can get the gold bird event to pop, as long as you started with the CHA amulet worst case you can use that plus the bird. Still pretty random getting the bird before her request triggers.

[Gillias]

Originally posted by sffrrrom:

Thanks for that - I realized that as long as you can get the gold bird event to pop, as long as you started with the CHA amulet worst case you can use that plus the bird. Still pretty random getting the bird before her request triggers.

One of the many many rng moments that kind of define how your game ends up going. But that definitely adds to replayability, wanting to see more and more.

Admittedly, in her case it's more for the fancy colors/having an extra gold for a bloodshed or carnality. I did end up using all 3 of her tiers to break equivalent extravagance cards. I was frantic on a silver extravagance, spent it on the house, and immediately rolled the gold *head desk moment*. Fortunately remembered she can use one of her tier.