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How to approach golden cards and bloodshed cards and endgame?
Hi!
First, I am really enjoying the game, but feeling a little bit overwhelmed. Part of this is the fact I can't formulate a good long-term strategy because I cannot intuit how to start to build for specific endgame. In particular each time a golden card jumps out I feel out of options. I manged to get rid of golden carnality in the palace with far-reaching consequences and of golden bloodshed through holy fire (one-time option) but what to do with the rest? Also what happened if one exhaust all the cards? Should one even try?Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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wei270 Apr 6 @ 1:20pm 
ok there is alot of hidden stuff in the game and some stuff you only really get to after you beat the game once.
for first time gold cards
there are if you get 20 renown you can remove 1 card, any card just one.
Gold conquest, hardest for me,
i only found 1 way to do it that is with the silver prosistue she is actually a princess if you have 1 passion with hero and 10 notoriety you get her quest to reconquer her home land, but the hardest part is you need an army which i am not 100% sure how to reliably get. once you get 5 notoriety there are random criminals gonna come to you and one of them is a band of marauders and that is the only army card i can go so far but it is complete random.
gold Bloodshend,
not that hard just kill the visor if he is in court just use the card in court, or just play the story then he will come out and work with you, killing him is BAD idea, but if you are out of options then
second options is if you use silver cardinally on the emperors silver consort and kill her in the love making then find out she is pregnant, and now you lose if you don't have a gold bloodshed because now you need to use gold bloodshed to kill the royal heir. this after after a few days
then there is the gold sword masters that you can random recruit, getting the event is also random
gold extravagance second hardest
there is house project that can use it but failing that, there is random daily event where there is an inventor coming to court choose the middle option to get him stay and fund his creation now you can use gold extravagance for the project. then use can use the extravagance to marry nalya if you killed your wife and went her route need 10 infamy
and i heard the play boy as specialy event with gold extravagance that is different from his other extravagance
gold cardinally.
you just need to find the right girl or make the right girl, only one at start is zazie she also have a very difficult quest line if you don;t just sleep with her.
you can upgrade 2 girls to gold.
silver prostitute if you do her conquest campiagm you can choose to promote her to gold.
and i think nalya can be promoted to gold if you do her top beauty in the kingdom quest, very hard.

if you get ride of all cards you get the default non defeat ending
Golden carnality is easy to get rid of if you upgrade your wife, and I don't recommend burning golden bloodshed, because there's a quest line with the Vizier that gives you many opportunities to use it on him, there's even a quest line with him and Nawfal that can culminate in you killing the Vizier. Golden extravagance can be used to renovate your home by putting it in the thinking box, and there's several events that allow you to use it. The inventor might make a hot air balloon that you can use the card with, there's an event where you can pay another inventor who comes to the Sultan's court with a mechanical bird, and there's also a series of dog fights, where on the last one, you can spend your golden extravagance card on.
For the golden conquest, there's mostly two way. one is using it to incite the revolution ending, the other one is connected to the silver prostitute. If you gain passion with her and notoriety, she asks you to fight her father. You need troops for this, but if you have notoriety, which you must, to get the quest, a troop could randomly pop up to be hired. You also get a troop if you pass 30 influence.
And using up all the cards just leads to an ending.
wei270 Apr 6 @ 1:25pm 
getting notoriety and infamy is very hard do you know how to get those two up faster?
Originally posted by wei270:
getting notoriety and infamy is very hard do you know how to get those two up faster?

I mainly get them through those random events with multipel choices, but you can also get more by not using Sultan cards for certain acts, like not using a conquest card when you occupy the winery for Fatuna.
Zephyrw Apr 6 @ 2:04pm 
So far

Gold Extravagance : Pimp your house or the golden pheonix or the ballon or give money to the golden prince or ... so many way
Gold Carnality : just upgrade your wife to golden and do your marital stuff
Gold Bloodshed : kill your wife, (or the vizir or the golden prince or your noble friend after upgrade or Quais after the quest or ... so many golden character everywhere)
Gold Conquest : because you are now single, conquest the father land of your next wife
Last edited by Zephyrw; Apr 6 @ 2:06pm
wei270 Apr 6 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by Zephyrw:
So far

Gold Extravagance : Pimp your house or the golden pheonix or the ballon or give money to the golden prince or ... so many way
Gold Carnality : just upgrade your wife to golden and do your marital stuff
Gold Bloodshed : kill your wife, (or the vizir or the golden prince or your noble friend after upgrade or Quais after the quest or ... so many golden character everywhere)
Gold Conquest : because you are now single, conquest the father land of your next wife

ok when you upgrade you wife she become silver right, how to you upgrade her again to be gold?
You can have your wife start as silver using fate points.
Zephyrw Apr 6 @ 3:17pm 
when you unlock the silver fate bond wife, a new fate bond appear (golden)
same for the +5 gold (4 times, you can reach +20 gold) and same for the slave and the noble friends (the noble one (the guy who want to hook you or your wife) can also reach golden
if it a bit to grindy for you to farm fate point, just go to the json save data and change the "total point"
By the way if you choose a gold Bloodshed card to break in the 20 renown event, you will get an extra gold sword(Not much use for it only increases 8 social) but better than nothing.
Easiest gold to break: Extravagance

Just have 20 gold and don't upgrade your house until you get it.
If you hold a gold treasure like the cat statue or hot air balloon, you can upgrade with a different extravagance card safely.

Second easiest golds to break: Bloodshed

Upgrade your wife or noble follower to gold with threads of fate, and you can do these at any time.

If you don't want to kill these characters with bloodshed (reasonable) you'll have to wait for an event with a arch-vizier. Killing him is free and seems to have no downside. He also shows up and waits around pretty frequently.

If you get really unlucky and get the card with no vizier, you can kill one of the sultan's gold concubines if they appear next to him during the great game. But the sultan usually gives you a real ♥♥♥♥♥ of a quest in response.

You can also kill the wandering swordsman or the silver trans prostitute if you've upgraded her to gold, but those are very unreliable solutions.

Third easiest gold to break: Carnality

If you've upgraded your wife or noble follower with the threads of fate, this is trivial and has no downside. Even easier than Extravagence because it comes at no cost (though also no benefit.)

Without that, you have to bang one of the sultan's 2 gold harem members. This triggers a tough quest for both.

Hardest gold to break: Conquest

This is the big problem card. It's usually the last card you break to win the game. In the early game there's no solution but to re-roll it. If you re-rolled into it early on hard difficulty, that's probably game over unless you earned a second re-roll or a time rewind.

The earliest way to break it is to spark passion in the silver trans prostitute (I forget her name) and then agree to kill her dad. Otherwise you can break it during the minor invasion of the kingdom way way late in the game. But ideally you never break it, and instead pursue a game ending that doesn't require breaking all the cards.
Some said you could break golden conquest if you do the Sultan Game party (after silver carnality with unreliable guy)
Problem is... Sultan is joining it so he kills you if you tries.

Apparently you can break any card there.
But is there a way he wont attend it?

Or is the only real solution the Shama Prostitute way, besides the rebellion part.
Morag Apr 8 @ 7:35am 
There are 3 ways I know of to break a gold conquest card and 1 probable way.
1: incite revolution obviously
2: go wage war against the silver consorts father as mentioned above.
3: go do Zazie's (gold Sultan consort) quest line by breaking a gold carnality card ....then use the gold conquest card when attempting to stab her god. it is a great way to kill two gold cards but wow is it expensive and very late game.
4) i think you can use the gold conquest card to kill the sultan during a brothel party from that honor guard that joins you after you use a few carnality cards. (maybe not done this myself yet, i assume this requires a bit of prep)
Last edited by Morag; Apr 8 @ 7:39am
Naila Apr 8 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by IHaveLigma:
Some said you could break golden conquest if you do the Sultan Game party (after silver carnality with unreliable guy)
Problem is... Sultan is joining it so he kills you if you tries.

Apparently you can break any card there.
But is there a way he wont attend it?

Or is the only real solution the Shama Prostitute way, besides the rebellion part.

1. Helping Abdul the vizier to the end. Don't let your certain friend kill him or use the Golden bloodshed on him. He eventually will get people to rebel against him, and Sultan will order you to fight against the troops. Abdul will kill himself after you win, but you get to break a golden conquest.

2. If your kindness is 20+, you get a special place on the left to break one card, you can use the Golden Conquest once.

3. The Golden Swordsman event. Use Golden Carnal Pleasure first, he will get a lot to deal with...but he will run away. After that he will raise a rebellion, you can use the Golden Conquest on him. Knowing his true identity I would not do that on him, but well, a way is a way...if you truly don't want to use Golden Conquest to start a revolution...
Hikuran Apr 8 @ 12:41pm 
There are easier ways to deal with golden cards
1. Bloodshed can be used on Vizier, but I recommend saving it when you revolt.(spoiler alert)
Vizier can be dealt with in at least 3 ways, both better than just kill him.
2. Extravagance, easiest one. Just upgrade your house and you will have a easy game with extra coin every few turns.
3. Conquest, develop your romance with silver prostitute, you will have a unique quest line which allow you to conquest neighbour country. or in late game when Vizier is still alive, there will be a revolt, you can use your conquest there.
4. Carnal pleasure, either use it on that silver Playboy swordman, he will later introduce you to an orgy which you can use it. Or, just develop one of your followers to gold.
Quickly browsing the comments, I'm surprised nobody mentioned 2 other ways to break the gold cards without completing their objectives. Both the Immaculate Purity and Cult have their own options to let you destroy a single card.

Immaculate Purity is the easiest to access, all you have to do is speak about your situation to Iman, and later on you'll get the event that lets you destroy a card. Destroying a card this way will give you an item related to the card destroyed, its tier also based on the card. If you get a gold Conquest early and can't reroll, this is almost guaranteed the only way to break it without starting an early rebellion you may not be ready for.

The Cult is a little more time and manpower intensive early-game. You first explore a haunted mansion (don't use any cards). After that, do the "Evil Clues" event which will lead you to Bedriyyah. Take the option to go down the dark path, then hope she'll present you the event to use the Cultic God to destroy a card. Unlike the Immaculate Purity, the Cultist path of destroying a card will have a downside. Bloodshed will force you to kill a random person and there's nothing you can do to change it. Conquest will summon an abomination that threatens the life of a follower. Carnality will get you violated by a tentacle tree. Extravagance will have you robbed of a ton of money, but at least you'll get a decent eldritch troop for it.

Be warned, both sides will only allow you to destroy 1 card each per run. Choose carefully which ones you want to sacrifice.
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