is Arzuna's request even possible in normal rogue like style?

[Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉]

In the first request that typically occour in the week when the store open

The player needs one bronze and one silver charisma items.
Fine, keep reverse the day until the player gets it.

In the next request, usually two weeks later, the player need TWO GOLDEN items with total TEN charisma?

The best charisma item that I know is the Pomegranate Crown only give +4?

I only have one mysterious help so far to this point. So the player have to somehow get
a +2 bronze
a + 3 silver
a + 5 golden

in the first shop roll (plus the foreign trader roll)

plus the duplicate from the mysterious help?

How can anyone get those at all?

[Gillias]

It takes a bit of luck. In my experience there are two ways to get sufficient charisma via items. One is to get the Golden Bird event early on (this actually happened in my current run). For 30 coins, you get a gold animal that gives 8 charisma.

The second may not be possible in the time you have, but still exists. If you have a cult, try to induct Mahir. The next time you fund her long term research, she will come back with a "Weapon enchantment ritual", which allows you to sacrifice any character and add their stats to a weapon. Using that with the broken sword your merchant-house guest sells (or Adila's sword if you recruited her with the white rhino pelt) will give you a gold item with charisma equal to the character you sacrificed to it.

[Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉]

Originally posted by Gillias:

It takes a bit of luck. In my experience there are two ways to get sufficient charisma via items. One is to get the Golden Bird event early on (this actually happened in my current run). For 30 coins, you get a gold animal that gives 8 charisma.

That is a rare event and even it is not, throw away 30 gold early on makes everything else sluggish... uggh, so in the end, just a lot of fate points then.

Originally posted by Gillias:

The second may not be possible in the time you have, but still exists. If you have a cult, try to induct Mahir. The next time you fund her long term research, she will come back with a "Weapon enchantment ritual", which allows you to sacrifice any character and add their stats to a weapon.

sacrifice any character?! oh well. I've never induct Mahir with a cult.

[Gillias]

Originally posted by Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉:

That is a rare event and even it is not, throw away 30 gold early on makes everything else sluggish... uggh, so in the end, just a lot of fate points then.

I mean, Arzuna is a fate point character, so even having access to her is kind of against your "pure roguelike" ideal :P. At any rate, she's not really worth upgrading. The only thing she does is break extravagance cards, which are tied with carnality as the easiest to break (without losing characters) imo.

[Tomera]

the jeweler can make a 4 charisma silver dress, I found it the easiest way to finish the first event

[Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉]

Originally posted by Gillias:

I mean, Arzuna is a fate point character, so even having access to her is kind of against your "pure roguelike" ideal

Rouge-like to me means to flip a coin and then decides the risk to go left or right. Some initial character tokens provide more choices than left and right. If a certain event-chain demands the player to abandon other routes then it is taking the coin away --- there is no more decision to be made, no matter how much risks there are. Hence, as long as the risk based decision making process still presents, more initial character doesn't change the rouge-like nature of the game. I'm not sure what definition of rouge-like you uses, but you sounded like the kind of player who only accept vanilla ice cream as ice cream. I'd argue that adding peanuts on ice cream doesn't change what ice cream is. However, taking away milk will make the product sorbet instead.

Originally posted by Tomera:

the jeweler can make a 4 charisma silver dress, I found it the easiest way to finish the first event

Actually I've never met this jeweler who everyone been talking about (also mentioned in some other events). Which event?

[Gillias]

Originally posted by Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉:

Actually I've never met this jeweler who everyone been talking about (also mentioned in some other events). Which event?

That would be Jenna, in the fate's ledger. You can put her in methinks to spend 5 gold and get her to make random accessories. If you have her do bathhouse, grand game, or bookstore, she accrues inspiration (unlimited times) which improve the creation check and offers better items.

[Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉]

Originally posted by Gillias:

Originally posted by Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉:

Actually I've never met this jeweler who everyone been talking about (also mentioned in some other events). Which event?

That would be Jenna, in the fate's ledger. You can put her in methinks to spend 5 gold and get her to make random accessories. If you have her do bathhouse, grand game, or bookstore, she accrues inspiration (unlimited times) which improve the creation check and offers better items.

Ohh I see. Thanks a lot.