What is the meaning of different training mode arrow symbols?

[ShiveringSun]

Solid white arrow refers to dpad/left stick movements, but what does the black arrow mean?

And the little arows on the punch/kick icons... how do we control which is used?

I'm stuck on the Helena move that is <- <- P P (both with an arrow pointing at 1:30 on a clock) P (with an arrow pointing to 3:00). This is around move 30 or so in the combo training.

P P P from a neutral stance with no directional input fulfills P (1:30) P(3:00) P(3:00). How to do 2 P(1:30) in a row?

After playing around with training mode for a while, I have not once seen a black arrow come up in the input "history" list... but it is often in the move list. 0.o

[Vollie]

black arrow means hold that direction while inputting and arrows on the punch/kick icons i think that means you can charge it for a longer attack and more damage.

[tokiopewpew]

The black arrow means you keep holding the direction button.

[Gao Li]

The normal arrows are just normal directional input
←, ↖, ↑, ↗, →, ↘, ↓, ↙
These inputs mean that you should press the direction and keep it pressed.
⇐, ⇖, ⇑ , ⇗, ⇒, ⇘,⇓ , ⇙

Here's a list with stuff that should help you with the command training. Sooner or later you'll run into moves that will say "While ..." This explains what you have to press then.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=425782149

Do you mean this for a move?

Ⓟ→Ⓟ→Ⓟ→

I'm a bit at a loss what you mean with 1:30
Could you describe your move using those arrows above?
I can also put these here, if you want.
Ⓟ = Punch
Ⓚ = Kick
Ⓗ = Hold/Cancel
Ⓣ = Throw

EDIT:

I just looked at the command training. I may have counted wrong, but this is move #30, right? ←←ⓅⓅⓅ

Or does your move look more something like this?
←←ⓅⓅ↓ⓅⓅⓀ

[Morelia]

The small arrows on the punch/kick icons indicate the hit area of that move (high, mid or low).

[Gao Li]

Originally posted by Morelia:

The small arrows on the punch/kick icons indicate the hit area of that move (high, mid or low).

That's not alwas correct. Momiji's ↘Ⓟ and ↘↘Ⓟ both hit up, for example. Those arrows indicate your directional input.

[tokiopewpew]

Originally posted by Gao Li:

Originally posted by Morelia:

The small arrows on the punch/kick icons indicate the hit area of that move (high, mid or low).

That's not correct. Momiji's ↘Ⓟ and ↘↘Ⓟ both hit up, for example. Those arrows indicate your directional input.

Nope, he's right. Wer're talking about the little white arrows on the punch/kick buttons themselves, not about the big white arrows in front of them. Momiji's 3P is mid while 33P is high btw.

[Gao Li]

Originally posted by ToKyo_PewPew:

Nope, he's right. Wer're talking about the little white arrows on the punch/kick buttons themselves, not about the big white arrows in front of them. Momiji's 3P is mid while 33P is high btw.

Oh, the ones that you press and keep press for power launchers, for example?

[tokiopewpew]

Originally posted by Gao Li:

Originally posted by ToKyo_PewPew:

Nope, he's right. Wer're talking about the little white arrows on the punch/kick buttons themselves, not about the big white arrows in front of them. Momiji's 3P is mid while 33P is high btw.

Oh, the ones that you press and keep press for power launchers, for example?

No. I said ON the punch/kick icons, not above or around them.

[Re-Venger]

Guys, what about other icons near the combos. I know OH ois offencive hold, but others?

[Gao Li]

Originally posted by ToKyo_PewPew:

No. I said ON the punch/kick icons, not above or around them.

This is why I love you Germans. Always so polite. Like rocks.

Just to clarify: I meant stuff like this:
http://imgur.com/iY7rxAx

[tokiopewpew]

Originally posted by Gao Li:

Originally posted by ToKyo_PewPew:

No. I said ON the punch/kick icons, not above or around them.

This is why I love you Germans. Always so polite. Like rocks.

I know what you're talking about and I bet I could tell you a hundred times that we're not talking about these arrows were you still wouldn't get it so I'd also like to show it on a picture instead:

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150705/jepfppxy.png

And thanks for being derogative instead of just reading what I wrote and taking a look at the icons ingame.

Originally posted by Go back to your PSN/XBL plz:

Guys, what about other icons near the combos. I know OH ois offencive hold, but others?

Which ones do you want to know? PL is Power Launcher, PB is Power Blow, CB is Critical Burst, SP is (I believe) something that leads into a special stance.

[ShiveringSun]

Thanks for the info all! :)

The move is Helena #31 Command Training. By 1:30 I meant the arrow ON the P icon is pointing to where the minute hand on a analog is pointing at 1:30, or ↗.

The move is ← ← P(↗) P(↗) P(→). Screenshot here: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/436070724983135474/3BAF9A0E07BE37B4F21EE39955BE77CC92FEB408/

My problem was that I hadn't figured out how to do 2 consecutive P(↗) in a row... but I see now how to do it! The sequence is: flick analog stick twice ←, P, then analog ↑ + P, P. My confusion was caused by the nested arrows ON the P icons... AFAICT they are interchangeable with the "direction + button" instruction (maybe only when within a combo?) but that is not spelled out! lol

I'll reference your guide *when* I fail again Gao Li. :)

Edit: Just to mention I'm using a wired 360 pad.

[Zippy]

Originally posted by ShiveringSun:

The sequence is: flick analog stick twice ←, P, then analog ↑ + P, P.

I think you got that wrong, that move is done like this:

44PPP, so press back on your D-pad/analog twice, then punch three times.

What you've described is a little more complicated and would be 44P8PP. You don't need to follow the little arrows, since as somebody else said, they only represent where that attack will land, in this case, you first two hits will be high, and the last one will be mid.

(If you don't understand the numbers, they are directions that are based on the layout of the numpad on your keyboard.)

[Gao Li]

Originally posted by ShiveringSun:

Thanks for the info all! :)

The move is Helena #31 Command Training. By 1:30 I meant the arrow ON the P icon is pointing to where the minute hand on a analog is pointing at 1:30, or ↗.

The move is ← ← P(↗) P(↗) P(→). Screenshot here: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/436070724983135474/3BAF9A0E07BE37B4F21EE39955BE77CC92FEB408/

My problem was that I hadn't figured out how to do 2 consecutive P(↗) in a row... but I see now how to do it! The sequence is: flick analog stick twice ←, P, then analog ↑ + P, P. My confusion was caused by the nested arrows ON the P icons... AFAICT they are interchangeable with the "direction + button" instruction (maybe only when within a combo?) but that is not spelled out! lol

I'll reference your guide *when* I fail again Gao Li. :)

Edit: Just to mention I'm using a wired 360 pad.

Thanks, that answered my question I had. :D

[ShiveringSun]

Originally posted by Zippy_62:

Originally posted by ShiveringSun:

The sequence is: flick analog stick twice ←, P, then analog ↑ + P, P.

I think you got that wrong, that move is done like this:

44PPP, so press back on your D-pad/analog twice, then punch three times.

What you've described is a little more complicated and would be 44P8PP. You don't need to follow the little arrows, since as somebody else said, they only represent where that attack will land, in this case, you first two hits will be high, and the last one will be mid.

(If you don't understand the numbers, they are directions that are based on the layout of the numpad on your keyboard.)

Hmm. I was not able to pull it off like this! The second P always came out as a mid P rather than the high P. Very possible I'm missing some nuance here as this is the first DoA game I've played in may years... but when I mixed in that 8 with the second P, I completed it.

When doing 3 P in a row with no other inputs with Helena the result is: high P, mid P, mid P. It felt like this was what was happening even after the 2 4's to start the combo.