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DOA6 removal of fanservice inspired by American SJW comics!?
So, let's put the nonsense to rest about who is to blame for this...

The blame falls squarely on modern American SJW comics as cited explicitly by Yohei Shimbori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MPm8SN9PP0
Originally posted by Famitsu:
“The reference we used for the imagery [in Dead or Alive 6] comes from American comics and films. In the old days I loved American comics.

“In the old days the female characters in American comics emphasized and highlighted the sexy lines of their body.

“Nowadays, there’s a change in the works to present [the female characters] with a sharp and cool design.

“In this way, I thought about [Dead or Alive 6] and the character appearances, and how to depict them with variety.”
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201806/09158656.html
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/06/dead-or-alive-6-removes-soft-engine-was-influenced-by-american-comics-films/60904/

Anyone who's been paying attention to comicsgate knows exactly how troubling it is that they referenced the most radical far-left, Marxist, anti-consumer media possible as a reference for their game.

American comics is the most highly concentrated cesspool of SJW's on the planet, and they served as muse for DOA's creative directors.

Now that's been cleared up, can we can all stop pretending that SJW's had nothing to do with this? Considering by the producers own words he directly tells us who's responsible. All you deniers out there don't get to wash your hands from this, you've been intentionally obfuscating the effect and impact of the social pressure you've been using to vandalize our entertainment.

We're not going to go down easy, you're going to have to fight to take DOA from us!
Last edited by Providence 777; Jun 14, 2018 @ 12:11pm
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ChairSupp0rt Jun 9, 2018 @ 10:21pm 
Fine, if things eventually ends up that way, then it will be the first DOA I do not want to buy. I prefer the old pixels of DOA1 over this NeoPuritan & NeoFeminist pandering BS. They can see when I purchased this game, and not bought the dlc modeled DOA5:LR like I should have done. I only wanted certain characters anyway, and at this rate, none at all.

Come to think of it, why do I even bother. The console version is far superior than the pandered version TN put in the special effort into making for Steam.
DANIEL RAIN Jun 10, 2018 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by Providence 777:
So, let's put the nonsense to rest about who is to blame for this...

The blame falls squarely on modern American SJW comics as cited explictily by Yohei Shimbori

Originally posted by Famitsu:
“The reference we used for the imagery [in Dead or Alive 6] comes from American comics and films. In the old days I loved American comics.

“In the old days the female characters in American comics emphasized and highlighted the sexy lines of their body.

“Nowadays, there’s a change in the works to present [the female characters] with a sharp and cool design.

“In this way, I thought about [Dead or Alive 6] and the character appearances, and how to depict them with variety.”
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201806/09158656.html
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/06/dead-or-alive-6-removes-soft-engine-was-influenced-by-american-comics-films/60904/

Anyone who's been paying attention to comicsgate knows exactly how troubling it is that they referenced the most radical far-left, Marxist, anti-consumer media possible as a reference for their game.

American comics is the most highly concentrated cesspool of SJW's on the planet, and they served as muse for DOA's creative directors.

Now that's been cleared up, can we can all stop pretending that SJW's had nothing to do with this? Considering by producers own words he directly tells us who's responsible. All you deniers out there don't get to wash your hands from this, you've been intentionally obfuscating the effect and impact of the social pressure you've been using to vandalize our entertainment.

We're not going to go down easy, you're going to have to fight to take DOA from us!

You never stop do you? you are trying sooo hard to ruin the game's hype, go play that lazy barebone Tekken 7 then, DOA won't miss you.
erobotan Jun 10, 2018 @ 10:29am 
Originally posted by DANIEL RAIN:
You never stop do you? you are trying sooo hard to ruin the game's hype, go play that lazy barebone Tekken 7 then, DOA won't miss you.
a slight improvement then your usual comment, instead of just 1 liner, this time it's 2 liners troll lol
Last edited by erobotan; Jun 10, 2018 @ 10:30am
Providence 777 Jun 10, 2018 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by DANIEL RAIN:
You never stop do you? you are trying sooo hard to ruin the game's hype, go play that lazy barebone Tekken 7 then, DOA won't miss you.
I'm not the one who removed the fan service, how am I ruining the game's hype?
I don't enjoy Tekken's gameplay like I do DOAs, and Tekken already has a director who has a spine and an understanding of what their fans want, I have no work to do there.

But DOA which is one of my favorite fighting games, like Soul Calibur 6 (I love them both equally, and I wish to threesome with them) needs the help of its real fans right now to prevent it from killing itself.

Solo a Star Wars story losing over 80 million bucks is what happens when you stab your fanbase in the back. And it's what DOA is doing right now unless we correct them.
Last edited by Providence 777; Jun 10, 2018 @ 4:42pm
ChairSupp0rt Jun 10, 2018 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by Providence 777:
I'm not the one who removed the fan service, how am I ruining the game's hype?
I don't enjoy Tekken's gameplay like I do DOAs, and Tekken already has a director who has a spine and an understanding of what their fans want, I have no worked to do there.

But DOA which is one of my favorite fighting games, like Soul Calibur 6 (I love them both equally, and I wish to threesome with them) needs the help of its real fans right now to prevent it from killing itself.

Solo a Star Wars story losing over 80 million bucks is what happens when you stab your fanbase in the back. And it's what DOA is doing right now unless we correct them.

Personally, I have enjoyed both DOA & Tekken, as well as SNK, SF, VR Fighter, Soul, GuiltyGear, Blazblue, and plenty of others that never made it to the West. I also have enjoyed Senran Kagura and others like it. Even enjoyed Samurai Shodown with its extreme violence as an option. The only ones I never did enjoy are MK, with little actual legit fighting moves, as the gorn simulator that is not banned, unlike the fate of plenty of SFW version of Japanese titles, all because of anime faces and the need to pander to the NeoPuritan & NeoFeminist, like what happened on Steam all last month and might still be ongoing; like TN might be doing, or gonna to do in order to appease others. It is the same reason I did not want to buy nor touch the SF vs another disney assets.

Which reminds me, SNK is finally embracing the original DOA model, and coming out with something similar to the original DOA, to bad it is probably only aimed for the JP market, not that it matter since I already purchase and consume contents directly from Japan.
Last edited by ChairSupp0rt; Jun 10, 2018 @ 4:46pm
Providence 777 Jun 11, 2018 @ 7:32pm 
I doubt this will get much traction due to the limited exposure and active censoring of the link
https://www.change.org/p/koeitecmogames-dead-or-alive-6-must-listen-to-their-fans?recruiter=637322981&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_twitter_responsive

But there is a petition that just started, spread that to fellow TRUE doa fans.
Zloth Jun 11, 2018 @ 9:41pm 
Let's see... Famitsu sees comic art go for less sexy, more cool look, decides he wants to do that with DOA characters. Therefore, it's the "SJW"'s fault. Obviously. Because it fits so well with all the other right wing conspiracy theories.
Evaide Jun 11, 2018 @ 9:51pm 
Iii'm not really concerned with the motive at this point. I just want to simply ensure that Dead or Alive doesn't slowly turn into a PvP version of Ninja Gaiden. It's already got the blood/gore part starting to come on. o.o I want a familiar, bright Dead or Alive game, and if we can't get that in the art, then I'd at least like to see it in the form of character-design.

Did you guys know that the creators hinted at ZACK discarding his goofy self and displaying a "cool" "mature" attitude instead?? :OO That's unacceptable!! I want Zack in his alien costume and I want my Dead or Alive to maintain the very things that got it on the map and gave it a fan base in the first place! And that includes silly, over-the-top fan-service-y costumes for females AND males. (And I really do agree with some opninions about it seeming illogical to alter the character's already-established appearances suddenly.)

I want a softer game where character don't take out their weapons and slice each other to pieces because that's what Dead or Alive has always been about. Heck, it's what the creators stated it was always MEANT to be about, which is why Kasumi (soft character design) became the poster child. (And I know DOA6 is not going to have people slicing characters into pieces like in Ninja Gaiden, I'm just saying I don't even want the DOA game to start moving in a direction similar to that.) It seems like only with the most recent Dead or Alive 5 installment that they started to harden and darken things up for some reason (but that was mostly just with the art style).

I respect anybody who likes the direction the game is going in. But there's also a large (seemingly majority) of people who are (most likely) veterans of the game (like me) who want it to keep its original roots.
Last edited by Evaide; Jun 11, 2018 @ 10:40pm
_Hamburglar_ Jun 11, 2018 @ 9:57pm 
I don't care who's fault it is....if they don't go back to form, I'll do other things with my money. Seems they have forgotten what got them where they are and what keeps the money coming in ("fan service" is the thing that saved them from going outta business in the first place).

If they wanna turn DoA into Kung Fu Prude Simulator, I can't stop them. That said, I don't have to help fund it either.

If they want to lock their testicles away in a drawer somewhere, that's their business...The Soul Calibur devs still know how to handle theirs, so they'll get my money. If Team Ninja gets their heads outta the sand, they'll also get my money.

DoA 6 will be the first game in the franchise's history that I have skipped, but I'll skip it if it isn't what I want from said franchise. It is what it is, but there's tons of other places to spend money if they decide they aren't interested in making any of mine.

Seriously though, stripping the fanservice from the DoA series is about as intelligent as taking gore and fatalaties out of Mortal Kombat. I just don't think aliening the core audience is going to work out for them. I suppose we'll find out in the end, eh?
Providence 777 Jun 11, 2018 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by Zloth:
Let's see... Famitsu sees comic art go for less sexy, more cool look, decides he wants to do that with DOA characters. Therefore, it's the "SJW"'s fault. Obviously. Because it fits so well with all the other right wing conspiracy theories.
Dude, modern marvel comics are SJW inc.

That's not a conspiracy theory, just follow Marvel comics own writers and artists on twitter and they'll proudly tell you about their feminists agenda. It's not a secret

why are you being such dumbass about it?
Last edited by Providence 777; Jun 11, 2018 @ 10:37pm
_Hamburglar_ Jun 11, 2018 @ 11:30pm 
Originally posted by Providence 777:
Originally posted by Zloth:
Let's see... Famitsu sees comic art go for less sexy, more cool look, decides he wants to do that with DOA characters. Therefore, it's the "SJW"'s fault. Obviously. Because it fits so well with all the other right wing conspiracy theories.
Dude, modern marvel comics are SJW inc.

That's not a conspiracy theory, just follow Marvel comics own writers and artists on twitter and they'll proudly tell you about their feminists agenda. It's not a secret

why are you being such dumbass about it?


Not only that, but Marvel has been trying to blackball smaller companies/artists/writers. Look into the crap behind the Jawbreakers comic and the crap Mark Wade and company have been pulling. they have been blocking and deplatforming anyone that isn't pro social justice and have been holding comic shops and small retailers hostage for months.

Providence 777 Jun 11, 2018 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by Numb_Chux:
Not only that, but Marvel has been trying to blackball smaller companies/artists/writers. Look into the crap behind the Jawbreakers comic and the crap Mark Wade and company have been pulling. they have been blocking and deplatforming anyone that isn't pro social justice and have been holding comic shops and small retailers hostage for months.
Yep #ComicsGate,

I saw that crap happen nearly in realtime. It's nuts.
_Hamburglar_ Jun 12, 2018 @ 12:10am 
Originally posted by Providence 777:
Originally posted by Numb_Chux:
Not only that, but Marvel has been trying to blackball smaller companies/artists/writers. Look into the crap behind the Jawbreakers comic and the crap Mark Wade and company have been pulling. they have been blocking and deplatforming anyone that isn't pro social justice and have been holding comic shops and small retailers hostage for months.
Yep #ComicsGate,

I saw that crap happen nearly in realtime. It's nuts.

I think its pretty telling that the Jawbreakers guy managed to crowd fund almost a half million dollars too...People are tired of the SJW crap co-opting and killing their fandoms.

People seem to have forgotten (or simply don't know) that in Tecmo's case, DoA's introduction of "jiggle physics" and use of fan service saved their company from going under all those years ago. The very things they are turning away from (and the things the betas are giving other fans sh*t over) are the things that helped build and sustain the franchise.

Without the DoA girls and the staples the series is known for, the DoA franchise will be deader than 4 o'clock on a dry Tuesday.
Evaide Jun 12, 2018 @ 12:25am 
Originally posted by Numb_Chux:
deader than 4 o'clock on a dry Tuesday.

I like that saying. I don't know why 4 o'clock is dead or why it's made deader by the fact that it's dry or Tuesday. But I like that saying.
ChairSupp0rt Jun 12, 2018 @ 2:44am 
Originally posted by Providence 777:
I doubt this will get much traction due to the limited exposure and active censoring of the link
https://www.change.org/p/koeitecmogames-dead-or-alive-6-must-listen-to-their-fans?recruiter=637322981&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_twitter_responsive

But there is a petition that just started, spread that to fellow TRUE doa fans.

Thank you very much. Personally I don't really believe in change.org, however at least it is something. Signed and commented, info passed on to other DOA friends of mine.

Thank you again. Here goes nothing or something, finger crossed. If not, oh well. There is always that stopgap measure, from that certain lab we still can't talk about, because TN was forced to pander to BS Steam rules. Which other game makers from Japan also followed, not that it helped them in any way, because their SFW censored version still got taken down.
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