The rat door on floor 3 doesn't spawn.

[Syro System]

I have seen this multiple times now and so has my brother. The door to the rat lair just isn't there. If you are going to make us jump through hoops to get in there, spawn the damn door!

[Zeforas]

Originally posted by Syro System:

I have seen this multiple times now and so has my brother. The door to the rat lair just isn't there. If you are going to make us jump through hoops to get in there, spawn the damn door!

Oh, you again. With the same complain.

The door ALWAYS spawn. You have to check for rats inside a room. If you see one, you have to look around to find a HIDDEN trapdoor. ( you have to walk on it for 15-20 seconds. )

If you don't see any rats, then there no door there.

In the rare case that you really do have a problem with your game, please awnser :

-Do you have "Mod the gungeon" installed? This "mod" is not up-to-date currently, and may or may not cause problem with the new extension the game had.
-Did you do anything special in those runs, that is out of the ordinary?
-Is your game up-to-date? Check for missing files, too, just in case. ( some user don't have their game on auto-update, or missing some files, so maybe you too? )
-Did you build the bullet to kill the past AND killed at least one past?

[Syro System]

Originally posted by Zeforas:

Originally posted by Syro System:

I have seen this multiple times now and so has my brother. The door to the rat lair just isn't there. If you are going to make us jump through hoops to get in there, spawn the damn door!

Oh, you again. With the same complain.

The door ALWAYS spawn. You have to check for rats inside a room. If you see one, you have to look around to find a HIDDEN trapdoor. ( you have to walk on it for 15-20 seconds. )

If you don't see any rats, then there no door there.

In the rare case that you really do have a problem with your game, please awnser :

-Do you have "Mod the gungeon" installed? This "mod" is not up-to-date currently, and may or may not cause problem with the new extension the game had.
-Did you do anything special in those runs, that is out of the ordinary?
-Is your game up-to-date? Check for missing files, too, just in case. ( some user don't have their game on auto-update, or missing some files, so maybe you too? )
-Did you build the bullet to kill the past AND killed at least one past?

No, no, yes and yes.

And yes i know every detail about how to reveal the door (including how the dust clouds look when you walk on it and start revealing it). And yes i checked literally every single room. It's not there and neither are the rats.

PS. The rat key is still way to expensive for something that is unlocked like the blacksmith's bullet, and store cost reducing items don't work on it.

[Zeforas]

Originally posted by Syro System:

Originally posted by Zeforas:

Oh, you again. With the same complain.

The door ALWAYS spawn. You have to check for rats inside a room. If you see one, you have to look around to find a HIDDEN trapdoor. ( you have to walk on it for 15-20 seconds. )

If you don't see any rats, then there no door there.

In the rare case that you really do have a problem with your game, please awnser :

-Do you have "Mod the gungeon" installed? This "mod" is not up-to-date currently, and may or may not cause problem with the new extension the game had.
-Did you do anything special in those runs, that is out of the ordinary?
-Is your game up-to-date? Check for missing files, too, just in case. ( some user don't have their game on auto-update, or missing some files, so maybe you too? )
-Did you build the bullet to kill the past AND killed at least one past?

No, no, yes and yes.

And yes i know every detail about how to reveal the door (including how the dust clouds look when you walk on it and start revealing it). And yes i checked literally every single room. It's not there and neither are the rats.

PS. The rat key is still way to expensive for something that is unlocked like the blacksmith's bullet, and store cost reducing items don't work on it.

I won't argue about the key price in there or anything. We alerdy went thought it. :P
( To each their own opinion/view of the game, after all. )

Does it NEVER spawn with you? Or from time to time?

Also, about the rats : the rats can be killed in one hit or dodge roll. If you killed them, their corpse will go away after a moment. You need to check for rats before killing, or kill with huge precision.

[Syro System]

It does spawn, but it has an alarmingly high non-spawn rate. I know the rats can die, hence why I checked every single room as stated.

Btw, this is unrelated but still worth mentioning. Had maxed out coolness earlier (around 80% item drop chance on room clear) and I STILL had an abyssmally low number of keys (and more then half the items in chests where active items to boot).

[Zeforas]

Originally posted by Syro System:

It does spawn, but it has an alarmingly high non-spawn rate. I know the rats can die, hence why I checked every single room as stated.

Strange. It should have a 100% spawnrate.

I don't think re-installing the game would help. It could, but most un-likely. If the devs don't awnser here, your best bet is to either ask on the discord channel or on the official reddit page.

Sorry, i couldn't help much.

Btw, this is unrelated but still worth mentioning. Had maxed out coolness earlier (around 80% item drop chance on room clear) and I STILL had an abyssmally low number of keys (and more then half the items in chests where active items to boot).

That's RNG jesus/rogue-lite games for ya. I had a run with 30 coolness or so, i only had money or blanks drops, but my next run, second floor, 0 coolness, i had 4 keys drop... Which allow me to buy both shellkey and a-key 47... in the same floor...

[Syro System]

There are 3 things I would do if mod the gungeon still worked.
Make the rat key be like the past bullet (free once unlocked, since the infuriating notes are), increase the number of starting keys to 3 (since not getting any keys on 1st floor is an instant restat a.k.a. wasted time) and remove magnificense and chest fuses when curse is zero, the 2 single most useless, anti-fun mechanics in the game code that only serve to piss of the players.

[Jouster]

You have completed a guneoneers past correct? I believe you need to do that before they even spawn in. Though if you have the option to buy the key they should be spawning... IDK dude

[Syro System]

Completed every achivement in the game except clearing challenge mode.

[mewlynx]

The hatch always spawns, but for some reason the rats don't always appear in the room. This has happened to be at least three times to me, and I only ever noticed because a poison barrel happened to pool above it, revealing the hatch. I really hope this isn't an intended feature, because it's hella frustrating.