Fireplace and water barrel spawn rates?

[Cryder]

I'm assuming they're supposed to be guaranteed spawns, I've never had a run without a fireplace so far, but I've had multiple where there was absolutely no water barrel anywhere. I did not destroy any water barrels and I was very thorough when systematically checking every room multiple times, so there simply was no spawn. If it's supposed to be a guaranteed spawn this is definitely an issue.

[Squigweed]

such a pain to roll those over a whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥ level

[fudeu]

Sometimes the barrels can get exploded in the firefights, so gotta watch out for that. I believe the game spawns at least 2 per level, but I have oftentimes seen one of the water barrels spawn inside the trap door room itself.

[Nightryderace]

Originally posted by OceanPuddles:

such a pain to roll those over a whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥ level

I think it's kinda fun. Like a little mini game and a nice break from all the firefights.

In my experience, there is always a fireplace and at least 1 water barrel on the first floor. Usually the water barrel spawned in a garden room (bushes, flowers, grass floor, etc).

[Jeffdev]

I always have a fireplace and at least 1 water barrel as well. Bad RNG I guess?

[Stonebash]

I've played about 30+ games, and there are atleast 2 every game, water barrel spawnrates are not RNG based, they are scripted to spawn when fireplace is added.

[NeoRizer]

Just unlock the Robot.... seriously, it's worth it just for farming that hunter guys ridiculous garbage... you need to do every single level just to clear 40% of his B.S. hunts.

[Betwixt]

The way I found out about the fireplace was using the Water Gun, Then I found out about the water barrel from a friend literally 10 minutes ago haha. If you get lucky enough to get an Ice/Water Gun/Enchant they work just as well.

[Umbaupause]

I usually just try to go for the fireplace when I either get a gun to put it out, or if the enemies in the fireplace room include a little slime, cause you can lead them to that fire to put it out too.

[Ad Massive]

There's always one, but if it spawns in a room with a book enemy you're probably screwed.

Also had one spawn in the Twins boss room too, that didn't last long.

[RobJ81]

It's annoying as hell to push them usually. It's a dumb task just to unlock the special level. Maybe one day this will get changed.

(Note- I own this on PS4)

[Guywars]

Maybe an enemy destroyed it, maybe you did and you didn't notice.
Maybe it was in the shop, maybe it was in the room after the boss, the room with the elevetor for the next floor.
There's always 1 water barrel, more often than not there are 2 too

[fudeu]

Originally posted by RobJ81:

It's annoying as hell to push them usually. It's a dumb task just to unlock the special level. Maybe one day this will get changed.

(Note- I own this on PS4)

Agreed, what pisses me off more than having to go through the hassle of unlocking each secret level, is that they require keys on top (second one not always, though, but you can only get to it if you do the first, anyway).

I just cheat and give myself enough extra keys to open Oubliette and another one for opening the Old Crest room when it's locked. Sick of being bled for so many keys early on and having to grind runs that give you enough.

[Fusha]

There are always exactly two barrels generated every run in the first chamber, no exceptions. One of those barrels for some inexplicable reason tends to be generated inside of the double-lock grate room; they could also spawn in secret rooms, boss rooms, etc.

Annoying as hell tbh, I really wish the barrels would be looked into

[fudeu]

Originally posted by Fusha:

There are always exactly two barrels generated every run in the first chamber, no exceptions. One of those barrels for some inexplicable reason tends to be generated inside of the double-lock grate room; they could also spawn in secret rooms, boss rooms, etc.

Annoying as hell tbh, I really wish the barrels would be looked into

Water barrels should either spawn in bigger numbers and/or be invulnerable to enemy shots (after all there is very, very little that they add to strategies, especially that early-game and even if you have electrified rounds).

[Ad Massive]

Probably just the masochist in me, but I quite like entering a room seeing some shotgunners and the water barrel being close by and then having to kite them around so they don't pop it.