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Coxatris Apr 7, 2016 @ 4:29pm
Cigarettes are broken (very OP)
Cigarettes are an active item that deal 1/2 heart damage in exchange for cool+. Some have been speculating that the Cool stat was equivalent to the Luck stat in other games, but it actually stands for cooldown+ (lowered cooldown for your active items). If you use the Cigarettes enough times, then you can reduce the cooldown on your active items to nothing. Instant cooldown in combination with a few other active items (Eldar Blank, Stuffed Star) make you basically invulnerable. Obviously this works best with the Pilot, since he has two active item slots to start with.

Aside from allowing OP combos, I think the Cigarettes are actually broken as well. You can mash the active item button to smoke multiple cigs while only taking 1/2 heart total.
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Coxatris Apr 7, 2016 @ 7:59pm 
Thought of another active item that cigs break. Don't know the name, but it is the one that stops time.

Of course at least cigarette exploits make you get two items. The Fightsaber exploit (constant reloading with weapon swaps) is only one and is almost as good.
fudeu Apr 7, 2016 @ 8:06pm 
Sounds like a really awful item for anyone but the pilot, then, as only he starts out with the ability to hold more than one active item.
MechaTails Apr 7, 2016 @ 8:10pm 
Cigarettes are the best item ever, if you drop them and wait a few seconds a Rat Genie appears and and asks for favors.

Wait...that sucks!
Coxatris Apr 7, 2016 @ 8:28pm 
Originally posted by fudeu:
Sounds like a really awful item for anyone but the pilot, then, as only he starts out with the ability to hold more than one active item.
You use the cigarettes when you find them, then you replace them with another active. The reduced cooldown that you get with them never goes away (even when going to another level). And if you are mashing, it shouldn't take many hearts before you are in full no cooldown mode.
Last edited by Coxatris; Apr 7, 2016 @ 8:30pm
fudeu Apr 7, 2016 @ 8:37pm 
Originally posted by Spooty:
Originally posted by fudeu:
Sounds like a really awful item for anyone but the pilot, then, as only he starts out with the ability to hold more than one active item.
You use the cigarettes when you find them, then you replace them with another active. The reduced cooldown that you get with them never goes away (even when going to another level). And if you are mashing, it shouldn't take many hearts before you are in full no cooldown mode.

But that means you can only use one cigarette, then have to dump it. Or did cigarettes recharge over time? I only saw them a couple times, but only used them once and didn't notice any benefit so didn't bother with it again.
FlySC Apr 8, 2016 @ 4:16am 
only broken if you find the other items though, I dont think that is bad, its basically high risk/high reward right?
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Date Posted: Apr 7, 2016 @ 4:29pm
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