Just uninstalled.

[Zeks]

Out of 15 runs, there were 2 where I got any decent weapon on levels 1 and 2. Other runs, I was forced to pew-pew the bosses. Most of the time, second one was ammoconda. To hell with it. Weapon acquisiton wastes too much of my time. it has a potentiall to be a great game, but I am sick of my time beig wasted on comletely useless active items from a box or getting charge type weapons like "charm bow". Charming. Will not be back untl I hear it was patched to be better.

[Guywars]

It won't be patched to become easy. The game is perfectly doable once you've practiced a lot and learned the patterns

[Zeks]

I am not uninstalling because it is hard. I am uninstalling because RNG wastes my time. 13 runs were mindnumbingly slow because tehre were no good weapon in the boxes. I got to ammoconda without wasting HP most of the time, extremely slowly, because I had nothing good to use. got to level 4 a few times too, but ultimately, at least half of my run time was completely wasted pew-pewing normal rooms with extremely weak weapons.


When this game actually cooperates - its great, but I realized, that most of the time I spend is wasted on frustration of NOT GETTIGN DAMN GUNS before 20 minute mark.

Whoever says this is a difficulty complaint needs to learn to read. It is not.

[Guywars]

How?
Imho every gun is great except the Kobble and the Ant Gun (which is probably great too, i just hate how it works). Even a normal shot gun can carry you through an entire floor. You start with 1 key, you will eventually drop more keys, or you'll buy them (i don't know if people here think that buying keys is dumb, it's not), or the boss will drop them (it happens a lot) in order to open chests.
More often then not i end up finishing the first level with 3 guns (4 if i'm using the Convict/Hunter)


If in 21 hours you've managed to complete floor 3 only once, i think it's just a matter of not being good enough, at least for now.

[Pantera]

lol learn to play. if you dotn want ♥♥♥♥ guns dont open brown, blue chests easy as that. Also how many of the good items did you even unlocked so far? you cant complain that you dont get them if you diddnt unlock them in the first place.

[Zeks]

Snowballer, all kinds of extremely weak revolvers, ship gun, extremely short range shotguns that are oh so fun to shoot bullet spamming bosses with, word guns, weakass igniting tridents and magic rings, all kinds of useless active items like explosive decoy and bun heals, charge bows with almost no damage. These are what I usually see at elvels 1 and 2. Even starting weapon is faster to clean floors with than this crap

[Zeks]

Originally posted by Senpai Plz:

If in 21 hours you've managed to complete floor 3 only once, i think it's just a matter of not being good enough, at least for now.

And I will not get better. Because the game is frustrating enough with its rng that I do not feel like playing again. Ever.

[Zeks]

I call them SLOW guns. Not BAD guns.

[Zeks]

Originally posted by Shmilly:

gee we sure need another one of those threads

This clearly shows that there is a problem anyway. I highly doubt Isaac had those.

I have no problem with hard. I wasted more tiem on touhou than I should have. I have a problem when the game is slow as hell until you, as you say it, "git gud". Game should be fun for EVERYONE. RNG in this one is just bad design taht you continue to defend without reason.

I had a blast with this game those few runs taht the game cooperated and gave me decent weapons early. But most of my time was spent frustrated at gettign unusable/slow crap and dying to ammoconda bullet spam.

And if I, as you say, have not unlocked good items in 20 hrs, this is CRAP DESIGN.

[BeTaFleXx]

the game is done well the bows are weak for bosses so use it for the rest of the stage if you cant handle the range of a shotgun you are bad and those pick up pistols do a lot of damage

[Guywars]

You unlock items at the breach by paying Hegemony credits, but i'm sure you know it.

So you can even decide what to unlock first. Later on more NPCs with more stuff to unlock will appear if you free them.

[Zeks]

I am not playing this game any more. See the topic of this thread. I do not want to waste 20 more hours before those supposedly good items start appearing. i want fun experience from the get go. Or at least 20 hrs I was in until uninstalled. The game will either tweak rng to avoid giving you lame active/passive items and crap guns that early or I am not getting back, ever.

[Papa Crust]

Originally posted by Zeks:

I am not playing this hame any more. See the topic of this trhead. I do not want to waste 20 more hours before those supposedly good items start appearing. i want funexperience from the get go. Or at least 20 hrs I was in until uninstalled.

Ok.

But why should we care?

[Zeks]

Originally posted by Shmilly:

People wanting Dark Room to be easier?
Oh.

Oh, indeed. I do not care about harder/easier. My problem is how slow starting weapons are and how slow it generally starts. If I died for tens of hours in lightning fast shootouts I will not come here to complain. I am here because the game is slow as hell for starting players, not because it is hard. Hard, I can deal with, slow to restart, not so much.

[velvetrose]

Git Gud

[That Guy]

Originally posted by Shmilly:

gee we sure need another one of those threads

if they are that common maybe thats a general indication that the learning curve is to steep

sure you and 10 other people want it to be so hard that only streamers with moded save files can beat it (save files determine item pool so even on this game it plays a role)

but it 10% cant even beat the game your on the losing side of a war of attrition. global steam achevos show its not even a 5% can beat the game