Skip or go through Secret Dungeon?

[Yourname942]

If you are just trying to kill the 5th floor end boss, should you skip or go through the 1st secret dungeon?
Pros: better/more loot
Cons: potentially waste ammo, waste keys, get hit more

What do you guys think? Would it be a bad idea to use the shortcuts as well? (losing out on the loot from previous areas) Thank you.

[Carrier Pidgeons]

If you have the key surplus (or got so lucky as to get the AKEY-47 or mimic tooth necklace and can STILL afford to go) yes. If Pilot, yes.

It's generally a hit or miss with the others, however. It's generally a good idea though.

[Yourname942]

Is it worth doing the shortcuts? (quicker reaching the 5th floor boss, but at a loss of more/better weapons/less hp/etc)

[Comegetsome]

just want to beat the dragun? yea, use the shortcut.. i plan on using it to speed up killing the past

[Pantera]

you only reason to go second secret is to unlock the items, so you just need to go there once.

[sure]

I pretty much never go to the 1st secret floor, which is why I don't have the "Reverence for the Dead" achievement.

But I would recommend not doing the 1st secret floor on a regular run because it's just a big waste of time. The boss is boring to fight and you don't even get anything special for flawlessing him, there is poison everywhere so if you don't have Bug Boots/Gas Mask/Hazmat Suit/Monster Blood/Clear Guon Stone then you'll have to go through the level at an incredibly slow pase and you'll almost never have enough keys to comfortably go there and not be in what I like to call "Key Debt".

I'm a valid source because I've beat the Dragun over 10 times and have all the pasts.








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[HeavenlyBrush]

If you are aiming for the lich both secret floors are a very valuable sorce of loot to make it much more smooth. These days if i can get into oubliette i always go, because i know that the extra drops are gonna be a lot of help in the end game.

[Comegetsome]

getting into secret chamber 1 shouldnt be that hard these days... barrel is always in the fireplace room and key is in the shop if 1 doesnt drop..

i would hold off on secret chamber 2.. you may experience diminishing returns on that one due to the difficulty.

[Yourname942]

I'm trying to kill Dragun, but I wasnt sure if I should use a shortcut or not. It seems that it is a better idea to skip the 1st secret dungeon.

[Comegetsome]

I would strongly advise against doing the lv 4 shortcut to speed up beating dragun. There seems to be an issue w/ shortcuts that I'm not quite sure of yet but either way you're better off doing a full run to get it done.

[HeavenlyBrush]

If you are just trying to kill dragun i'd suggest to not bother with oubliette and save your keys for chests. Just try to master the floors untill you can reliably not get hit on the floor and the boss.
You'll get there eventually.

[AnemoneMeer]

100% worth it on most every run. Pulling two key drops on the first floor is very, very common if you know how to play the RNG (Boss has greatly boosted odds. Shop is assured, provided you have not looted a key yet.)

You burn two keys on~

-A shop.
-Many, many shells
-A high chance of a key drop
-An assured weapon
-up to two chests.

[twow443]

Every run that I've gotten a past kill, I don't even attempt to hit that floor. I find it more worthwhile to not take unneeded damage on that one, particulary because you can't even get a for sure heart container for flawlessing.

I'd say if you have a good weapon and flawlessed the first boss, might as well. Otherwise, I'd just roll through the run and leave it alone.

[Misery]

I've never found a benefit to that place.

Usually I get one, and ONLY one thing out of that floor: 2 less keys that could have been used on... absolutely any other freaking thing. Hell, have I *ever* seen a single key actually drop on the secret floor? Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure I havent. So the only way to get back the wasted keys is to waste money. So, less keys AND less money. MOST of the time, the two chests in that floor are 2 chests I cant open without paying (and they may be crap chests anyway; my last go at that stupid floor produced a brown one and a blue one). The game has to be OBSESSED with giving me keys on the first floor in order for it not to be an utter waste. And even then, that's STILL two keys that could go anywhere else.

So, for TWO keys, I get ONE weapon, less money if I try to open one of the chests (because I have to buy ANOTHER bloody key), less money if I had to buy the second key just to get into the place, and probably some lost HP. ......yay?

Keys are just WAY too important to waste two of them on that.

It seems like a very badly balanced floor to me. Reminds me of nearly every secret area in Nuclear Throne other than the Pizza Sewers.

Just seems like wasted content. After many runs through it with zero purpose, I've just outright stopped bothering. I'd love to see it tweaked a bit later on to make it actually useful.