Very low damage weapon ?

[Harmonium]

Hello everyone,

I just play the game a lot, and all the weapon i get, seriously do nearly not that much than the little gun i get from the start... I was at floor 4 and i get a sword rifle, and took me sometimes 40 bullet to kill a little thing. I have use 480 bullet on the boss, its crazy, i don't feel powerfull or get new bonus who impact my gameplay. I just feel oh cool a new weapon, i use it, and not that much, weapon should do nice damage, and we should becarefull about the ammo, but its not like this, i just feel the weapon very useless, and sometimes more dangerous than usefull, because of all the laser the weapon can do, you can miss a bullet to evade.

[Carrier Pidgeons]

Sword Rifle? Excaliber?

[Harmonium]

I don't know my game is in french, i got the blaster, the sword rifle (a rifle made from a sword who make angry some guys) and the fire hand... and all of this stuff do nothing, i was at the stage when you fight a dragon boss, and trust me, i never feel so weak... 40 bullet for kill a little guys, weapon do no damage at all :(

[TheGamer6866]

Some weapons do more damage, some do less, some have it at par with your starter. Fast automatic/burst weapons have damage generally equal or less than your starter, (for the sake of repitition lets put the starter damage at 1). If you want something with a little more punch, then gravitate towards semiautomatic/charge/spread weapons.

[Harmonium]

Well bad luck then, but the game is very hard, not because you must avoid 90 thing at the end of the game (fire hammer who can't be killed), the death who can't be killed and some other thing. But the weapon is very very weak, and this is the problem, in binding of isaac, the game is hard, but you evolve, you become more and more strong, but here, i don't become more strong, i pick weapon who do nothing much better than the starter, OH yeah a new gun, pew pew pew 40 hit later i kill something, i get 500 ammo, what do you want i do ? I don't know how i go so far, but seriously the weapon need to do more damage, when you pick something you want keep it for the boss, i have shot trust me 500 bullet, and 999 bullet from my blaster O_O

I have kill the dragon, with my starter, he was in the end phase with the fireball who make him god mod, so i have evade and shoot the heart, again and again. But i have feel very disapointed all my weapon was so bad.

[Yveldi]

If you ask me, the idea behind these weapons are so that as you get stronger and find more weapons, levels also get harder. So in order to be able to survive, you need these weapons, and that is intentionally made by developers. As an example, on first stage, the weak yellow bullets take 3 shots to die (From Marine's Pistol, didn't play on others that much) on first stage. However, on the second stage, it takes 4 bullets to die. If you tried your pistol to kill that little guy, it might take even longer than it did. (I'm sure all the weapons are not as weak as the starting pistol. As an example, M1 isn't such a special weapon, but it does around 3 times as much damage as starter pistol, and is terribly long ranged, and can even hit multiple enemies with one bullet if they line up, but second one gets less damage.)

Also, all the weapons are situational. Using some weapons in a bad situation might have no advantage over pistol. As an example, some weapons are able to damage multiple enemies at once, but they have almost the same damage per second as pistol. So using it against one enemy might seem like it's a really bad weapon, but when you use that weapon against multiple enemies, you will see that it might even do better than your favourite weapon.

[D2daICE]

This game isn't Isaac, the progress you will make is most likely with your own skill as you get better at avoiding bullets and learning which gun is suited best for which situation.

There are guns that can carry you (like the fightsaber - a gun of light that reflects bullets when reloading) but skill is more important because it's not only a rogue-lite (like Isaac) it's also a bullet hell game.

There are quite a few (or a lot - depends on how you put it) that can two or three shot enemies on the fifth chamber.

From what you tell and the achievements you have i would assume you got the fightsabre (or a similar OP item) that can carry you pretty good and in the best case lead to your first victory.

[Harmonium]

A green gun rifle, maybe the fight sabre, but each bullet remove nearly 1% from the dragon, i have win because the dragon pattern is very easy, just need to take time and repeat. But i realy feel not powerfull at all, this is my main thing since the start to the end, i have feel the same. Maybe i need unlock more weapon to the shop, and did you guys give everything the girl ask for make the weapon to kill the past ? a big list they ask, will take some time.

[TheGamer6866]

I wish people would stop comparing this to Isaac, this game is not The Binding of Issac, and I feel like your problem is that you need to practice more (this game is very skill based), you keep wasting ammo in earlier chambers so that you don't have enough for the dragun, and you just aren't getting weapons that suit your playstyle.

[Harmonium]

Why you tell me to train more man ? I have kill the dragon, can't you read what i write ? I have kill it with my starter gun. So i can compare the game to what ? Rogue legacy maybe then ? I just say the weapon is very weak, here my feedback. Don't know if someone think the same, but each time i pick up a weapon, i have feel the same, not more powerfull, just with a new toy who do nothing much.

[D2daICE]

Originally posted by E.Y.E:

A green gun rifle, maybe the fight sabre, but each bullet remove nearly 1% from the dragon, i have win because the dragon pattern is very easy, just need to take time and repeat. But i realy feel not powerfull at all, this is my main thing since the start to the end, i have feel the same. Maybe i need unlock more weapon to the shop, and did you guys give everything the girl ask for make the weapon to kill the past ? a big list they ask, will take some time.

I had my first Dragun kill at around 70 hours of playtime (no bullet parts collected at this time) but i have to say that i'm not good at bullet hell games in general.

There are weapons that are pretty powerful and can tear bosses apart, there are also passives that give you neat and good abilities but you have to find and/or unlock them first to use them.

Yes it will take some time to collect the bullet parts but you can do it over multiple runs - so don't worry too much about it.

[TheGamer6866]

Originally posted by E.Y.E:

Why you tell me to train more man ? I have kill the dragon, can't you read what i write ? I have kill it with my starter gun. So i can compare the game to what ? Rogue legacy maybe then ? I just say the weapon is very weak, here my feedback. Don't know if someone think the same, but each time i pick up a weapon, i have feel the same, not more powerfull, just with a new toy who do nothing much.

You have 3.1 hours on record and have been on only 7 runs according to achevement progress. Either you are very, very skilled with this genre, or you were very, very lucky on that 7th run. I'm sorry I misread your post, but just because you beat the Dragun doesn't mean you beat the hardest boss. And if you say that all the guns are just as bad/good as the starter, you will get a world of responses proving you wrong.

[Harmonium]

I am very skilled because i played more than 800 hours on those game, like rogue legacy etc. I play dark souls too, and i was lucky too. I will play more the game, i will make youtube video of it, the game is good, i will play it more and test thing out, thanks.