Question. How does one get ammo to drop when all of their weapons are out of ammo?

[Milk]

Because I literally got no ammo drops from floor 3 to floor 5 all the way to Dragun. Fighting Dragun with the marine sidearm is no fun.

[effie 🌺]

answer: you don't

[ElOhTeeBee]

Your sacrifices to RNGeesus have been inadequate.

Take the lighter.

You know what to do.

[Rogue Scientist]

Indeed that is harsh. If you're having ammo trouble don't forget there are several ways to mitigate it - buy ammo from shops when available, buy extra weapons (even if mediocre), use the gun munchers, spend keys to open areas to NPCs if needed (most will either award or sell you a gun).

[Milk]

Originally posted by Rogue Scientist:

Indeed that is harsh. If you're having ammo trouble don't forget there are several ways to mitigate it - buy ammo from shops when available, buy extra weapons (even if mediocre), use the gun munchers, spend keys to open areas to NPCs if needed (most will either award or sell you a gun).

I would have bought ammo if the shop had ammo.

The worst part was that it was a clone run.

[JellyPuff]

The way, ammo drops currently work is also a pet peeve of mine, since it often forces you to mostly rely on your starting weapon/s for room-clearing, until the 4th floor.

It's just an unncecessary slowdown of an otherwise fast-paced game, when it should ALWAYS incentivise you, to use all the cool guns you find.

BTW, i'd rather fight Dragun with the Marine Sidearm, than High Priest with the Rogue Special...again.

[Empathy (They/It)]

Ammo is more likely to drop if you use weapons that use ammo, meaning if you're out of ammo for 2 floors you aren't getting ammo outside of shops or new guns.

Which is a design choice I don't really care for? Maybe I'm spoiled because Nuclear Throne's drops worked so well but making it so that ammo can basically become "extinct" for the rest of the run isn't very fun. I mean sure you have to plan around it, and there's some degree of risk/reward but it's just not very fun.

[Kaytid]

I think devs should keep ammo drops as they are now, but add more crappy guns that have infinite ammo and make them easy to obtain, maybe add a special shop for them or smth.

[Milk]

Originally posted by Empathy:

Ammo is more likely to drop if you use weapons that use ammo, meaning if you're out of ammo for 2 floors you aren't getting ammo outside of shops or new guns.

Which is a design choice I don't really care for? Maybe I'm spoiled because Nuclear Throne's drops worked so well but making it so that ammo can basically become "extinct" for the rest of the run isn't very fun. I mean sure you have to plan around it, and there's some degree of risk/reward but it's just not very fun.

Yes I know that, but how does one do that when literally all their guns are out of ammo?

[Yung Venuz]

Here is the strat the I use to conserve ammo and ensure a good run:
Use the starter weapon for the entire game(but F4 and F5 as well as F6 ) but start using your other weapons half way through F4, only use other weapons on boss fights and rooms that may be difficult.

[Milk]

Originally posted by Yung Venuz:

Here is the strat the I use to conserve ammo and ensure a good run:
Use the starter weapon for the entire game(but F4 and F5 as well as F6 ) but start using your other weapons half way through F4, only use other weapons on boss fights and rooms that may be difficult.

Yes, but if you use guns with ammo, you're supposed to get more ammo drops. The problem comes when your guns run out of ammo. It's almost impossible to get ammo, because you aren't using guns with ammo to clear rooms, which means you aren't getting preferential ammo drops, etc.

I had the ballot too, I was getting a lot of drops, just not ammo.

[Yung Venuz]

Originally posted by Tacobandit:

Originally posted by Yung Venuz:

Here is the strat the I use to conserve ammo and ensure a good run:
Use the starter weapon for the entire game(but F4 and F5 as well as F6 ) but start using your other weapons half way through F4, only use other weapons on boss fights and rooms that may be difficult.

Yes, but if you use guns with ammo, you're supposed to get more ammo drops. The problem comes when your guns run out of ammo. It's almost impossible to get ammo, because you aren't using guns with ammo to clear rooms, which means you aren't getting preferential ammo drops, etc.

I had the ballot too, I was getting a lot of drops, just not ammo.

Try saving the guns when they're at low ammo and firing them off once in every room you visit.

[D2daICE]

Hey, getting to the Dragun one time and die on the second phase because of one stupid jump is also fun, especially when you get there again the run after, with about 6 guns, but run out of ammo midway in the first phase and all you have is left is the alien engine.

RNG can happen a lot

[HeavenlyBrush]

Originally posted by Empathy:

Ammo is more likely to drop if you use weapons that use ammo, meaning if you're out of ammo for 2 floors you aren't getting ammo outside of shops or new guns.

Where does this idea even come from? I had multiple ammo drops on the first floor while using my pistols. Drop chance doesn't feel like it's affected at all by the weapon you're using. If anyone can provide some sort of citation it would be great.

I've been reaching dragun for 30 hours and i don't remember even once having to use my starter, and i only use pistol on the first floor, or in easy rooms further on.

To me it almost feels like if ammo was more common every run would just devolve into "here's my boss killer gun and here's my room clear gun, and i won't use anything else ever again".

Keys are much more of a problem in my opinion.

[Misery]

Originally posted by Yung Venuz:

Here is the strat the I use to conserve ammo and ensure a good run:
Use the starter weapon for the entire game(but F4 and F5 as well as F6 ) but start using your other weapons half way through F4, only use other weapons on boss fights and rooms that may be difficult.

For a game that's supposed to be about having and using lots of awesome guns though.... it's pretty idiotic that anyone should be finding themselves doing this whatsoever. Not to mention it drags the game's already slow pacing to a near halt because of how freakishly long everything takes. The game though really does seem to very much encourage you to NOT use the guns, partly with the drops.

I mean, really, the drop rates are just... terrible.

I just had a run just now that ended (really idiotically) on floor 5. I never saw a single ammo drop. Which, frankly, is what I expect. Ammo is SO rare that for the first 5-6 hours of owning the game, I didnt know there WERE ammo boxes you could get (the tutorial may have mentioned them, but my memory is HORRIBLE). I thought that when a gun ran out, that was it. They werent even appearing in the shop.

Not that I want to buy that from the shop, I'm too busy pumping my money into keys every freaking time. Those are the other problem. I mean, really, the normal shop isnt a "shop" to me. It's a key factory. I pay the guy, he makes a key. That's his entire reason for existing. My money count is basically an indicator of how close I am to the next key.

[Milk]

Originally posted by Heavenly Brush:

Originally posted by Empathy:

Ammo is more likely to drop if you use weapons that use ammo, meaning if you're out of ammo for 2 floors you aren't getting ammo outside of shops or new guns.

Where does this idea even come from? I had multiple ammo drops on the first floor while using my pistols. Drop chance doesn't feel like it's affected at all by the weapon you're using. If anyone can provide some sort of citation it would be great.

I've been reaching dragun for 30 hours and i don't remember even once having to use my starter, and i only use pistol on the first floor, or in easy rooms further on.

To me it almost feels like if ammo was more common every run would just devolve into "here's my boss killer gun and here's my room clear gun, and i won't use anything else ever again".

Keys are much more of a problem in my opinion.

This is also what I normally think. I too usually never have a problem with ammo. It's just that in this case, it screwed me hard.