Unlocks to avoid?

[Goblin King]

Are there any unlocks to avoid?

I heard the Plunger, Microtransaction Gun, Table Tech Rocket, Big Boy, Explosion Helmet, Gamma Ray, Box etc are pretty bad, and the poison items are terrible in coop.

Should I avoid unlocking these items so they don't contaminate the drop pool?

[Ghaleon]

I think you kinda have to unlock everything in order to get everything. Err that's obvious. I mean to say, I think that unlocks come in chunks, and you can't get chunk #4,5,6, etc without getting ALL of chunks #1, 2, and 3. And lots of goodies come in the later chunks.

That said heart containers are pure crap imo.

[Helly]

Buy everything - getting past the junk items (which there are few of besides heart containers) will get you to all the ridiculously OP ones, like Mourning Star and Yari Launcher.

The exception being the Blast Helmet. Just don't talk to the goblin in the Breach to avoid that one.

[Goblin King]

What about the plunger? Shouldn't I avoid it too?

[mellamoger]

Not every item has the same drop chances that others. In fact, I haven't seen Microtransaction Gun in the last 300 hours of play. By the way:

- Plunger can be really useful, as it can push easily enemies into pits. Also, you can harm them when entering the room and then switch to your starter weapon, so while you're doing poison damage you can hit them with your pistol.

- Table Tech is another useful item to push enemies away from you while also dealing damage.

- Box is an AMAZING item, as you can steal items from shops.

- Big Boy: mah man, this is a really high damage active item, plus you can clear a room full of bullets, you can even use it as a "blank" while fighting bosses with the plus that it does damage.

- Gamma Ray is indeed a not very useful weapon as its dps it's very low, but with the right synergies it can be useful. I don't like getting it but when I do I use it for searching the secret room.

Every item / gun in the Gungeon has it's purpose, you just have to learn and take advantadge of it.

[Umbras Memoria]

^ This guy.
This isn't BoI, everything is decent in this game, it just depends on skill.

[Leurfe]

Originally posted by Umbras Memoria:

^ This guy.
This isn't BoI, everything is decent in this game, it just depends on skill.

Except for the derringer, the derringer sucks

[brickey.8]

My problem is that while almost all items are good in theory, any item that carries Curse has to be *really good* to be worth picking up on a hero shrine run, which almost all my runs are. So most cursed items get treated like the chest didn't drop anything on most runs, and anything that steals from shops does not matter unless Cursula shows up and I want to rob the main shopkeeper so I can buy all her stuff without the lord of the jammed interrupting.

That said there are some items that are just not useful compared to others at their tier. C'est la vie.

[EggSaladologist]

Originally posted by Leurfe:

Originally posted by Umbras Memoria:

^ This guy.
This isn't BoI, everything is decent in this game, it just depends on skill.

Except for the derringer, the derringer sucks

Even if you get the derringer, you still have your starting pistol.

[Ghaleon]

can you not use the derringer to find hidden rooms? Seems to me it would be pretty good at that.

Heart containers suck though =P. They're boring as fuu... and if you need the heart, you need to get something better, and if you're good enough not to need another heart cuz you get master chambers.. err.. it does literally nothing for you except uhh.. let you afk longer without pausing?

[mellamoger]

Originally posted by Leurfe:

Originally posted by Umbras Memoria:

^ This guy.
This isn't BoI, everything is decent in this game, it just depends on skill.

Except for the derringer, the derringer sucks

There are only 4 guns in the whole pool that are worse than the starter: Derringer, Cactus, Klobbe and Pea Shotter. True they suck, but as Ghaleon said they can be used to find hidden rooms.

Originally posted by brickey.8:

That said there are some items that are just not useful compared to others at their tier. C'est la vie.

And that's the greatness. If you found an S chest that gave always gave you a game breaking item it would be boring, it really spices the game that in even D chests you can find very useful items, or the chance that an A chest gives you a miserable heart cointainer.

The trick is to learn how to use properly your loot.
Improvise.
Adapt.
OVERCOME.

[Zoekirk]

Originally posted by Leurfe:

Originally posted by Umbras Memoria:

^ This guy.
This isn't BoI, everything is decent in this game, it just depends on skill.

Except for the derringer, the derringer sucks

Eh. If you have both Alpha and Omega bullets it could be a good weapon. The first shot would deal 18 damage, with the second dealing 20. Having both items also reduces reload times by a third.