Cartographer Ring and Sense of Direction sucks way too much.

[B. Comet [VF4-A]]

I know those items are from brown chests (D tier) and shouldn't be very good to begin with, but...
They are COMPLETELY useless, basically do nothing and only waste the player keys (assuming it was get from a locked chest).

They need to get a some secondary passive effect to them or only come as some sort of "bonus" items in chests.

[Dingbat]

Isn't Cartographer's Ring C tier?

Wasn't being snarky, I'm aware of the possibility AG&D demoted it to D.

But I somewhat agree. They do have use in Bullet Hell since the only thing to do there is to go for the boss. By that time though, you are likely to have an active that's still 5x more useful.

[wafflekitty]

Sense of Direction is amazing if you get an effect that occurs whenever you use an activated item. For example, Ring of Triggers or Blank's Companion Ring.

Cartographer's Ring is useful to let you know where the things on the floor are. Can see where the chests or shops are and head for them first. Also lets you know exactly where the tomb is on floor 2, if you are going for Abbey. Admittedly it is probably one of the least useful things in the game. But I'd still rather get it than Klobbe or Sawed-Off.

[Blahness]

Originally posted by wafflekitty:

Sense of Direction is amazing if you get an effect that occurs whenever you use an activated item. For example, Ring of Triggers or Blank's Companion Ring.

Cartographer's Ring is useful to let you know where the things on the floor are. Can see where the chests or shops are and head for them first. Also lets you know exactly where the tomb is on floor 2, if you are going for Abbey. Admittedly it is probably one of the least useful things in the game. But I'd still rather get it than Klobbe or Sawed-Off.

the Blank on active use has a 10-15 second delay before it can be used again, so its only really useful for blanking normal rooms and for secrets. Bosses recharge actives very quickly.

[wafflekitty]

I'm aware of the CD on Blank's Companion Ring, but constant free Blanks are always useful. Why do you think Daruma is the best active in the game?

[i have no headphones and i must]

I feel like Cartographer's Ring should be bumped up to B or A tier and reveal the floor 75% of the time.

Sense of Direction just needs like 7 more synergies to not suck completely

[Blahness]

Originally posted by wafflekitty:

I'm aware of the CD on Blank's Companion Ring, but constant free Blanks are always useful. Why do you think Daruma is the best active in the game?

Daruma + rat bag = misery :C

[wafflekitty]

Originally posted by Blahness:

Originally posted by wafflekitty:

I'm aware of the CD on Blank's Companion Ring, but constant free Blanks are always useful. Why do you think Daruma is the best active in the game?

Daruma + rat bag = misery :C

One anti-combo doesn't ruin an item.

[Dingbat]

Originally posted by Bazooka Bullets:

I feel like Cartographer's Ring should be bumped up to B or A tier and reveal the floor 75% of the time.

If I recall, the ring doesn't reveal secret floors, so its actual usefulness is trivial considering I end up exploring every room in floors 1 thru 5 anyways.

[i have no headphones and i must]

Originally posted by Dingbat:

Originally posted by Bazooka Bullets:

I feel like Cartographer's Ring should be bumped up to B or A tier and reveal the floor 75% of the time.

If I recall, the ring doesn't reveal secret floors, so its actual usefulness is trivial considering I end up exploring every room in floors 1 thru 5 anyways.

They should make it reveal secret rooms. I just want it to be useful.

[wafflekitty]

But it already is a little useful. And if it revealed secret rooms, Gungeon Blueprint would become virtually obsolete.

[BOYCOTT]

Originally posted by wafflekitty:

But it already is a little useful. And if it revealed secret rooms, Gungeon Blueprint would become virtually obsolete.

you're lying to yourself man, it is useless.

[wafflekitty]

Read my original post. I ain't gonna lie, it's pretty bad. Amongst the worst items in the game. But not completely useless.

[BOYCOTT]

it should at the very least help find secret rooms, if that was changed i could agree, but as it it's just amazingly terrible.

[wafflekitty]

Again, if it revealed secret rooms too, Gungeon Blueprint would be effectively pointless. So no, it should not reveal secret rooms.

[BOYCOTT]

it kinda literally has to reveal any secret room you've already found or it's item description is just a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lie, your issue is irrelevant.