Unlocks for Killing the Past

[willthejohnson]

So I finally killed the past for the first time (with the Marine) and unlocked the Galactic Medal of Honor as well as Military Training. But the Marine already starts the game with Military Training. Did anything change for the item, or did the developers decide to unlock it from the get go with a post release patch?

Thanks!

[e.bkapalka]

Originally posted by zerometroid:

So I finally killed the past for the first time (with the Marine) and unlocked the Galactic Medal of Honor as well as Military Training. But the Marine already starts the game with Military Training. Did anything change for the item, or did the developers decide to unlock it from the get go with a post release patch?

Thanks!

You can find it in chests or from vendors as any character now

[willthejohnson]

Originally posted by e.bkapalka:

Originally posted by zerometroid:

So I finally killed the past for the first time (with the Marine) and unlocked the Galactic Medal of Honor as well as Military Training. But the Marine already starts the game with Military Training. Did anything change for the item, or did the developers decide to unlock it from the get go with a post release patch?

Thanks!

You can find it in chests or from vendors as any character now

Ooh. Cool! Thanks for letting me know e.bkapalka!

[godfather101]

yeah, all characters which past you beat unlock their starting item, so every character can find the starting gear in a run.
Some of the things are pretty useful. ;)

[DeadMan_Playing]

no, it sucks. nobody wants to see starting gear of other chars poping up in a chest ...

seriously. it's an awful reward for finishing the game. who thought it was a good idea ? i'd like to know.

[godfather101]

I think it is a good idea.

[Ghaleon]

Originally posted by DeadMan_Playing:

no, it sucks. nobody wants to see starting gear of other chars poping up in a chest ...

seriously. it's an awful reward for finishing the game. who thought it was a good idea ? i'd like to know.

Reload noticeably faster and have noticeably accuracy is a good piece of loot, if you disagree you just don't understand how to good at this game. Likewise, having 20% more ammo AND additional active slot is better than most red chest items...

convict has nothing I feel is great. Hunter's loot is also trash but 'dog' is pretty good for brown chest loot (or is it blue? think it's brown).

[DeadMan_Playing]

oh i understand how to good. don't worry. i good all the time.

a second slot is better than a killer weapon from a red chest ? i don't think so.

doge is just a novelty companion. it's nice, but it won't win you the game.

would you really be happy having supply drop, arbalest, molotov, instead of ANYTHING else in a chest ? cmon.

lockpick is useful if you run out of keys. ok. why not. but should i remind you, every other char plays without it. Do you really miss it when you play them ?

now imagine that. you play as pilot and the first three item you get are the ones from convict.
that's 3 chest opened. and you still suck.

it's bad. there's no debate here.

[Stevi]

There's also an extra A-rank item/gun when you kill each character's past.

[Xjan256]

Originally posted by DeadMan_Playing:

a second slot is better than a killer weapon from a red chest ? i don't think so.

none of the starting items are found in red chests, not even green ones

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by Swebdank:

none of the starting items are found in red chests, not even green ones

This. IIRC, blue chests are the only ones which carry other character items.

[Xjan256]

Originally posted by DasaKamov:

IIRC, blue chests are the only ones which carry other character items.

Dog, Photo and Battery Bullets are brown chest items, but otherwise yea

[DeadMan_Playing]

its still a terrible idea to have these items added to the shootout. i don't see how someone can defend this. but hey, to each his own.

[Herr Sten]

Molotov is decent, photo is ok
Lower prices is good, lockpick is decent
Military training is great
Dog is ok
Sword is amazing
Battery bullets is eh on not-robot

Most of these are also in D-tier, some in C. They don't come in the way and are not bad (except battery bullets without electricql resist.

[SonicBoomNFA]

Originally posted by DeadMan_Playing:

oh i understand how to good. don't worry. i good all the time. :derp:

a second slot is better than a killer weapon from a red chest ? i don't think so.

doge is just a novelty companion. it's nice, but it won't win you the game.

would you really be happy having supply drop, arbalest, molotov, instead of ANYTHING else in a chest ? cmon.

lockpick is useful if you run out of keys. ok. why not. but should i remind you, every other char plays without it. Do you really miss it when you play them ?

now imagine that. you play as pilot and the first three item you get are the ones from convict.
that's 3 chest opened. and you still suck.

it's bad. there's no debate here.

Your logic is JUST awful. You haven't played the game very long, have you?

[Unsanitary]

Originally posted by DeadMan_Playing:

its still a terrible idea to have these items added to the shootout. i don't see how someone can defend this. but hey, to each his own. :Juicebox:

They're all better than a majority of the other brown chests items
Unlocking them improves the item pool