Black markets are too rare?

[Flytrap]

I haven't seen one in all my 60 hours.... Why are they so rare?

[Adiosnoob]

Same with 44 hours here

[CyperAleksi]

Probably because they tend to cause my most broken runs and make it too easy, would be my first guess.

[Flytrap]

Originally posted by CyperAleksi:

Probably because they tend to cause my most broken runs and make it too easy, would be my first guess. :flowey:

So basically make everything that makes the gun fun be rare AF just so people will be challenged constantly, and thats exactly why i prefer BIO: Rebirth, because that focuses on you having fun, and then challenging you, instead of this where challenge above everything, including fun, challenge even if its torture. And also, i understand you love your flowey, but dont you get bored of using that emoticon in every single of your replies?

[DiceDsx]

Because you get all the vendors with a 50% discount on everything?

[ned]

Originally posted by Magyarharcos:

Originally posted by CyperAleksi:

Probably because they tend to cause my most broken runs and make it too easy, would be my first guess. :flowey:

So basically make everything that makes the gun fun be rare AF just so people will be challenged constantly, and thats exactly why i prefer BIO: Rebirth, because that focuses on you having fun, and then challenging you, instead of this where challenge above everything, including fun, challenge even if its torture.

Mmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmm

Just don't say that too loud, you may trigger the fanboys, y'know.

[CyperAleksi]

Difficulty has been a selling point for me anyways, Binding of Isaac I tend to get bored with as you become immortal rather easily, which thankfully doesn't happen as much in gungeon (though it still happens.)

I'm fine with not seeing a black market as often due to these reasons, same as why I'm thankful I've only seen the clone item once in 178 hours: because it insta-wins you the run.

But that's just how I feel about it.

[brickey.8]

I don't understand why they even bothered to program certain things in if they thought it was too game-breaking to show up more than once every 50 hours. Wouldn't it have made more sense to, you know, just make the black market less OP but less rare?

[CyperAleksi]

Originally posted by brickey.8:

I don't understand why they even bothered to program certain things in if they thought it was too game-breaking to show up more than once every 50 hours. Wouldn't it have made more sense to, you know, just make the black market less OP but less rare?

I do agree that something like a Glitch chest and certain secret rooms are so ridiculously rare that you maybe see them once during your entire playtime, which can be a bit silly, but at the same time finding new things almost 200 hours into the game is quite fun as well.

Difficult to say, really.

[Flytrap]

Originally posted by SnackerZ:

Originally posted by Magyarharcos:

So basically make everything that makes the gun fun be rare AF just so people will be challenged constantly, and thats exactly why i prefer BIO: Rebirth, because that focuses on you having fun, and then challenging you, instead of this where challenge above everything, including fun, challenge even if its torture.

Mmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmm

Just don't say that too loud, you may trigger the fanboys, y'know.

Don't really care honestly, ANY fanboy can go to hell, i hate fanboys and people who dont think straight because they love some god or a thing.

[Flytrap]

Originally posted by brickey.8:

I don't understand why they even bothered to program certain things in if they thought it was too game-breaking to show up more than once every 50 hours. Wouldn't it have made more sense to, you know, just make the black market less OP but less rare?

Thats exactly what im wondering too. Glitch chests are a thing, ranbow chests too, black market, yet all of them are rare AF because the devs are PARANOID of people getting an OP run. They treat op runs like they are the devil or something, avoid at all costs.....

[DiceDsx]

Originally posted by Magyarharcos:

thats exactly why i prefer BIO: Rebirth, because that focuses on you having fun, and then challenging you

Sadly, in the DLCs, you need to be op. otherwise you're in for a boring, tedious slog.

[Flytrap]

Originally posted by DiceDsx:

Originally posted by Magyarharcos:

thats exactly why i prefer BIO: Rebirth, because that focuses on you having fun, and then challenging you

Sadly, in the DLCs, you need to be op. otherwise you're in for a boring, tedious slog.

Yea, thats sad..... Hush is a joke, a typical go big or go home type of boss. Hate it

[DiceDsx]

Originally posted by Magyarharcos:

Originally posted by DiceDsx:

Sadly, in the DLCs, you need to be op. otherwise you're in for a boring, tedious slog.

Yea, thats sad..... Hush is a joke, a typical go big or go home type of boss. Hate it

Delirium is even worse.

That aside, I don't think BoI and EtG can be compared: while both borrows bullet hell's elements,
EtG borrows more elements than BoI.
Balance is one of those elements.

[MrRobotototo]

Ok, actually why does CyperAleksi use a flowey emoticon after every thing he says? It's fine with me, but still, why

[urbanriot]

Originally posted by Magyarharcos:

So basically make everything that makes the gun fun be rare AF just so people will be challenged constantly, and thats exactly why i prefer BIO: Rebirth, because that focuses on you having fun, and then challenging you, instead of this where challenge above everything, including fun, challenge even if its torture. And also, i understand you love your flowey, but dont you get bored of using that emoticon in every single of your replies?

Hmm... yea, my consideration for this game recently changed from "I love this game, can't way to 'git gud'" to "okay, I don't see myself getting any better and I'm not having fun..." I think you just clarified why I'm not having fun.

You're right, the developers are keeping anything fun about this game away from players that don't have the time to play this for hours on end. As an adult I might have maybe 30 minutes during the week to play a game, maybe an hour on the weekend, and with that time I'd like to sit down and have fun playing a game or at least experience a fun challenge.

When I get into a room and there's an enemy like, right in front of me that I can't avoid or kill because the game decided RNG would withhold a good weapon... well, ♥♥♥♥ this.

BoI : Rebirth offers more 'fun' in that regard? I have the original BoI and held off on the new one cause it seemed like a money grab.