Daisuke's trial (Need Help)

[QuantumKris]

After completing every other achievement in the game, I only have Daisuke's trial left. Incase you don't know what the trial is, just look it up.


For this, I've tried a few times and only ended up making it to the third floor boss. I presume I just need to practice more and get down the patterns for the different accommodations, but as for that, any extra tips and tricks are very much appreciated!

(I use The Bullet as my preffered character of use)

[SonicBoomNFA]

If you find the boss and are good on health, fight him. Then, unless you haven't found a single chest on the floor, leave. You'll put yourself at risk by trying to fully explore each floor in challenge mode. Especially on floors 4 and 5, you don't want to hang around the normal rooms because your chances of being hit a lot or literally being two-shotted (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ High Stress) will only increase.

[Index]

Don't be scared to take some good items in exchange for getting cursed. Try to be a little more bold with curse, you have to go all out in that regard if you want to win challenge mode. High risk, high reward. When I completed challenge mode the Dragun was actually jammed but the items I had made up for it.

As long as you have at least some HP, know all the modifiers and your weapons are not terrible, you'll be fine for the floors themselves. The bosses are something else though. You can get completely raped by any boss if it has the right modifiers. Make sure you can reliably flawless all the bosses in normal mode (maybe even do a high curse run or two for practice) and pray to RNGsus.

The floor 4 and floor 5 bosses are a little bit different than the others in that they have set modifiers which appear every time and no random ones. Each of the 4th floor bosses has a unique modifier to it, you'll have to get used to these. Wallmonger is pretty much the hardest of them all in challenge mode and kill pillars is the easiest (imo).

The Dragun fight is ridiculous: It's attack patterns themselves are actually modified and more dangerous. You WILL 100% need blanks for this fight or you will die. There is one particular attack which I don't think is even dodgeable. Blanking the knives is probably not the best idea, just try to kill them instead. This fight is also ALWAYS accompanied by the "High Stress" modifier which lowers your health to half a heart for a few seconds everytime you get hit. So keep your cool. Don't panic when you get hit, it could lead to a quick death. Also completely focus on dodging after taking damage and don't be afraid to immediately use a blank if needed.

That said, luck plays a big role in challenge mode and one or two early HP-ups or boss flawlesses can be game changers for your run.
Good luck, fellow gungeoneer.

[CyperAleksi]

Originally posted by Index154:

The floor 4 and floor 5 bosses are a little bit different than the others in that they have set modifiers which appear every time and no random ones. Each of the 4th floor bosses has a unique modifier to it, you'll have to get used to these. Wallmonger is pretty much the hardest of them all in challenge mode and kill pillars is the easiest (imo).

Floor 4 bosses are easier than floor 1 at this point.

Originally posted by Index154:

The Dragun fight is ridiculous: It's attack patterns themselves are actually modified and more dangerous. You WILL 100% need blanks for this fight or you will die.

Nope. It's doable without blanks.

Originally posted by Index154:

There is one particular attack which I don't think is even dodgeable.

It's dodgeable.

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In regards to creator of the thread, challenge mode has quite a few outs. Fire/poison immunity in form of flying or immunity items helps a ton since it'll make you not have to worry about constant ground effects.

You'll want to value most beam weapons highly, they aren't affected by most of the modifiers which makes them very solid.

Gun queue with right weapons picked up raises your DPS rather highly rather than messing you up, the worst combo with it is thermal clips of course which you counter with, again, a fire resistance or flying item should you get one. Knocking out modifiers with items helps a great deal, though ofc requires a bit of luck.

Since bullet is immune to blobulin rancher, yeah, he is the easiest to do it with.

Pot shots was created by Satan. Beam weapons let you destroy all the pots in the room instantly so you don't have to worry about them, blanks as well, but since you want to save those for the boss fight, it's kind of a pickle. Worse in certain rooms for sure.

Hammer and missiles can't seem to hit you in the area where there's a small "hallway" between the current door and the room you are in, I sometimes hide there as it despawns the hammer if you do it for a couple of seconds. I assume that one is a bug however, so not something I do constantly.

Dragun is always the same, so I'd say he could be the easiest part of the challenge eventually. Considering his new attacks, you'll likely die the first time, at least. Skulls are countered by a beam weapon, knives are the same deal, but his attacks are a lot faster and the dragon breath bounces back from the wall at you. It's still dodgeable but can be tough. Blanks and damage immortality actives are great here, ofc. As well as armor.

Practice makes perfect.

[Index]

Originally posted by CyperAleksi:

Originally posted by Index154:

The floor 4 and floor 5 bosses are a little bit different than the others in that they have set modifiers which appear every time and no random ones. Each of the 4th floor bosses has a unique modifier to it, you'll have to get used to these. Wallmonger is pretty much the hardest of them all in challenge mode and kill pillars is the easiest (imo).

Floor 4 bosses are easier than floor 1 at this point.

Originally posted by Index154:

The Dragun fight is ridiculous: It's attack patterns themselves are actually modified and more dangerous. You WILL 100% need blanks for this fight or you will die.

Nope. It's doable without blanks.

Originally posted by Index154:

There is one particular attack which I don't think is even dodgeable.

It's dodgeable.

I agree that because there is no randomness to the floor 4 and 5 bosses, the earlier ones can be harder when you encounter them in combination with annoying modifiers.

When I fought the Dragun, the bouncing fire breath attack didn't seem like it was avoidable but since I only fought him once in challenge mode and him being jammed might have affected the difficulty of the fight too, I'm going to accept your correction since I assume you have more experience with it. That said, what's the strategy to dodging it?

[Dagaz]

Luck, and Skill; lots of both

[Dr. Paulo Minoso]

Good luck.

[Death Grips]

Just be glad that Challenge mode is more forgiving now than it was at release.

[Dagaz]

Originally posted by Rectal Prolapse:

Good luck.

you know i've bet he's done it, y'know, after a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ year

[QuantumKris]

Man a year later and I now Speedrun this game and can get a solid 16 minute Dragon run on auto pilot LULLLL

[SonicBoomNFA]

Originally posted by QuantumKris (ง’̀-‘́)ง:

Man a year later and I now Speedrun this game and can get a solid 16 minute Dragon run on auto pilot LULLLL

Meanwhile, I haven't even touched the game in a year cause I've been waiting for the new expansion so that I actually have a reason to play again, lmao.

[QuantumKris]

D'ahhh get into speedrunning it. It's seriously a lot of fun to both decode the games code and to see how fast you can clear the game through dfferent means \(^_^)/

[Qwas]

You could follow all these valid tips and tricks, or just get lucky enough to get seven-leaf clover as your first item, and then get clone right before you die on the 5th floor B)

[Dagaz]

Originally posted by Qwas:

You could follow all these valid tips and tricks, or just get lucky enough to get seven-leaf clover as your first item, and then get clone right before you die on the 5th floor B)

read like the last 4 posts