Is this well optimised/Does this run?

[the lol man1]

I'm considering buying this, but I don't want to end up purchasing another AC game on PC to see it run slow. For example, AC3 should run fine on my system but often has a terrible framerate, and AC Unity (fair enough I may just be below the required specs for that) stutters often. I'd like to know as I may buy it when the summer sale comes round.

If it was the fact that I'm fairly sure it uses Uplay (right?), I'd buy it and if it didn't work I'd get a refund, but as it uses Uplay, I'm not sure that would work. If it is badly optimised, I'll probably get it on 360 (PC is my prefered platform, though).

Thanks in advance.

Note: Incase anyone wants to see my specs, here they are:
OS: Windows 8.1
RAM: 8GB
GPU: EVGA Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti (2GB) SC
CPU: AMD A8-6600K APU (4 CPUs) 3.9GHz

(I've probably missed something out, but meh.)

:)

[medavroog]

It uses Uplay and it should run fine on your specs ... Assassin's Creed Rogue basically runs on the same engine as Black Flag.

[the lol man1]

Originally posted by medavroog:

It uses Uplay and it should run fine on your specs ... Assassin's Creed Rogue basically runs on the same engine as Black Flag.

Ok, thanks. I've never played Black Flag on PC, so I was entirely sure if it ran well either. But thanks, I'll see if it goes down to anything I can afford in the sale, although from what I've heard, it's probably worth the full price.

[Smokedice]

I have a nvidia 540m and could only get 30 fps on black flag on the lowest settings and lowest screen resolution. However, Rogue gives me over 30 fps on medium/high settings (turned off vsync and anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering though) and at highest screen resolution.

Rogue was made exclusively for last gen systems while the PC version of Black Flag was the next gen version. In other words, Rogue runs well on older and weaker systems.

[the lol man1]

Originally posted by Rawfire:

I have a nvidia 540m and could only get 30 fps on black flag on the lowest settings and lowest screen resolution. However, Rogue gives me over 30 fps on medium/high settings (turned off vsync and anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering though) and at highest screen resolution.

Rogue was made exclusively for last gen systems while the PC version of Black Flag was the next gen version. In other words, Rogue runs well on older and weaker systems.

All right, good to know, thanks for the information. :)

[J o n e x]

Your specs are fine. My PC is just a step above yours in terms of GPU, and I get a constant +60fps with no hang ups. Screen tearing is an issue, but I've yet to try the game with V-Sync on.

[the lol man1]

Originally posted by J o n e x:

Your specs are fine. My PC is just a step above yours in terms of GPU, and I get a constant +60fps with no hang ups. Screen tearing is an issue, but I've yet to try the game with V-Sync on.

Thanks for that information too. :)

[AbedsBrother]

This runs really smooth on medium settings @1080p on a Radeon R7 260X, like a steady 60fps. Way better optimized than Black Flag.

[the lol man1]

Originally posted by abedsbrother:

This runs really smooth on medium settings @1080p on a Radeon R7 260X, like a steady 60fps. Way better optimized than Black Flag.

Good to know.

All of this is really edging me on to buy the game. Thanks guys. :D

[Smokedice]

Originally posted by abedsbrother:

This runs really smooth on medium settings @1080p on a Radeon R7 260X, like a steady 60fps. Way better optimized than Black Flag.

It's not running at a higher framerate than Black Flag because it's better optimized. Its graphics just aren't as demanding as the other game.

[AbedsBrother]

Originally posted by Rawfire:

Originally posted by abedsbrother:

This runs really smooth on medium settings @1080p on a Radeon R7 260X, like a steady 60fps. Way better optimized than Black Flag.

It's not running at a higher framerate than Black Flag because it's better optimized. Its graphics just aren't as demanding as the other game.

The graphics are exactly as demanding as Black Flag. It's the same engine, same texture resolutions, same draw distances, same light and shadow demands, same reflections, same foliage, same tessellation, same ship models (though the Morrigan is a different design from the Jackdaw). Even the menus are the same, just colored blue in Rogue (instead of green).

The only difference in game architecture is that the world map is smaller - Rogue shifts between three small-ish open-world areas as opposed to Black Flag's massive single map.

Recommended specs for Rogue vs. Black Flag are slightly higher for Rogue: both recommend an Intel Core i5 2400s @2.5 Ghz or equivalent, but the recommended graphics card is a GTX470 for Black Flag, and a GTX 560Ti for Rogue, a significant upgrade[gpuboss.com].

So for a game to utilize the same materials as its predecessor, but runs better than that game on exactly the same equipment, yeah, that indicates optimization.

[the lol man1]

Originally posted by abedsbrother:

Originally posted by Rawfire:

It's not running at a higher framerate than Black Flag because it's better optimized. Its graphics just aren't as demanding as the other game.

The graphics are exactly as demanding as Black Flag. It's the same engine, same texture resolutions, same draw distances, same light and shadow demands, same reflections, same foliage, same tessellation, same ship models (though the Morrigan is a different design from the Jackdaw). Even the menus are the same, just colored blue in Rogue (instead of green).

The only difference in game architecture is that the world map is smaller - Rogue shifts between three small-ish open-world areas as opposed to Black Flag's massive single map.

Recommended specs for Rogue vs. Black Flag are slightly higher for Rogue: both recommend an Intel Core i5 2400s @2.5 Ghz or equivalent, but the recommended graphics card is a GTX470 for Black Flag, and a GTX 560Ti for Rogue, a significant upgrade[gpuboss.com].

So for a game to utilize the same materials as its predecessor, but runs better than that game on exactly the same equipment, yeah, that indicates optimization.

It's possible he meant demanding due to the map sizes being different. But if that was the case, I'm sure Black flag's draw distance wasn't that fantastic, meaning not much of the world would actually be viewable until you get close to that part. I think you get the picture. I word things terribly.

Thanks again everybody. :)

[Smokedice]

Originally posted by abedsbrother:

Originally posted by Rawfire:

It's not running at a higher framerate than Black Flag because it's better optimized. Its graphics just aren't as demanding as the other game.

The graphics are exactly as demanding as Black Flag. It's the same engine, same texture resolutions, same draw distances, same light and shadow demands, same reflections, same foliage, same tessellation, same ship models (though the Morrigan is a different design from the Jackdaw). Even the menus are the same, just colored blue in Rogue (instead of green).

The only difference in game architecture is that the world map is smaller - Rogue shifts between three small-ish open-world areas as opposed to Black Flag's massive single map.

Recommended specs for Rogue vs. Black Flag are slightly higher for Rogue: both recommend an Intel Core i5 2400s @2.5 Ghz or equivalent, but the recommended graphics card is a GTX470 for Black Flag, and a GTX 560Ti for Rogue, a significant upgrade[gpuboss.com].

So for a game to utilize the same materials as its predecessor, but runs better than that game on exactly the same equipment, yeah, that indicates optimization.

No. I've looked at the grapihcs between the two games. Aside from being much less foilage and particle effects, Rogue for the PC and last gen consoles are the same as the last-gen console version of Black Flag. Really, side by side the two games have noticeably different graphics qualities. Even the character animations!

[AbedsBrother]

Originally posted by Rawfire:

No. I've looked at the grapihcs between the two games. Aside from being much less foilage and particle effects, Rogue for the PC and last gen consoles are the same as the last-gen console version of Black Flag. Really, side by side the two games have noticeably different graphics qualities. Even the character animations!

Agree to disagree, then.

[Smokedice]

Originally posted by abedsbrother:

Originally posted by Rawfire:

No. I've looked at the grapihcs between the two games. Aside from being much less foilage and particle effects, Rogue for the PC and last gen consoles are the same as the last-gen console version of Black Flag. Really, side by side the two games have noticeably different graphics qualities. Even the character animations!

Agree to disagree, then.

The fact does not change whether or not we agree or disagree. Fact is that the engine for the PC version of Black Flag was next-gen only. Rogue for PC is last-gen. Weaker graphics = better performance. That is a non-debatable fact.

[AbedsBrother]

Originally posted by Rawfire:

No. I've looked at the grapihcs between the two games. Aside from being much less foilage and particle effects, Rogue for the PC and last gen consoles are the same as the last-gen console version of Black Flag. Really, side by side the two games have noticeably different graphics qualities. Even the character animations!

This is opinion. I too have both games (Rogue is on Uplay, feel free to friend me on Uplay to verify this). They look the same to me. This is why I said "agree to disagree," because arguing whose opinion is "right" is just silly.

Originally posted by Rawfire:

Fact is that the engine for the PC version of Black Flag was next-gen only. Rogue for PC is last-gen. Weaker graphics = better performance. That is a non-debatable fact.

Links to prove this, or you're just making stuff up to prove your point. Just because Rogue was not implemented on the PS4 / Xbox One platforms does not mean that its graphics on PC are automatically inferior to Black Flag's.

https://youtu.be/_wIcGWZntnA