Dodge branch to bad?

[Rinne]

Played a lot games on chara's with dodge abilities, even with 50+ stable dodge and 65-75+ dodge with Fury and/or 5s battle buff (and with 40%-80% dodge to M. DMG) a lot of attacks and abilities may not be dodged. Even when i fought against enemy, that has 3 times lower dodge than me, he dodged 14 times and i dodged 17 times. Wth?

[Lactose Intolerant Volcano God]

Your dodge chance is not the only factor.

Not all damage types can be dodged. To have a successful dodge, it has to be damage that you can actually dodge. (If your opponent is attacking with poison or holy damage, you can't dodge that, even with a 75% dodge chance.)

Your opponent's attack speed or the number of dodgeable attacks they make in a battle will also affect how many successful dodges you can make. (If your opponent is slow and only attacks you five times, then you can make a maximum of five successful dodges.)

Also, there's a skill called Agility Shackles that reduces your opponent's chance to dodge. So your dodge chance may be lower than you think. I'd always buy Agility Shackles if I thought someone was focussing on Dodge.

Dodge is awesome in the right lobby, especially with Perfect Rebound.

[JuRiOh]

I think dodge is the best branch in the game, by far. The mythic wins almost every lobby and is so impactful that nobody wants to play attack oriented heroes if dodge is available.

[User_XO]

Originally posted by JuRiOh:

I think dodge is the best branch in the game, by far. The mythic wins almost every lobby and is so impactful that nobody wants to play attack oriented heroes if dodge is available.

This is a lie. I have lost on 4 star dodge against 3 star attack builds when crit is up. It seems to work sometimes, but it's ultimately RNG and pretty unreliable unless there's hacks in this game or something because it seems ridiculous that a 4starless Panda Warrior with tier 3 ulti and attack speed would somehow push through a 4 star mythic 60+ dodge tier 3 crit+attack speed demon shadow.

[Lactose Intolerant Volcano God]

Originally posted by User_XO:

it seems ridiculous that a 4starless Panda Warrior with tier 3 ulti and attack speed would somehow push through a 4 star mythic 60+ dodge tier 3 crit+attack speed demon shadow.

Maybe read the in-game guide and learn how dodge works and how different branches counter each other. It's like a big game of paper-rock-scissors, so knowing which branches are strong against others is very helpful.

The Panda Warrior's ultimate is magic damage, which is not dodgeable by default. If the Panda Warrior had focussed on Ultimate branch, they'd likely be doing a lot of magic damage.

The Panda Warrior's talent is 25% chance to heal whenever they take damage. If your Demon Shadow had high attack speed, you were probably causing the Panda Warrior to heal more often. That healing talent scales with hero level, so it can be useful for Panda Warrior to build several branches rather than just focus on getting one branch to 40. (It's not necessarily a weakness that the Panda Warrior didn't have a 4-star branch.)

[User_XO]

Originally posted by Lactose Intolerant Volcano God:

Originally posted by User_XO:

it seems ridiculous that a 4starless Panda Warrior with tier 3 ulti and attack speed would somehow push through a 4 star mythic 60+ dodge tier 3 crit+attack speed demon shadow.

Maybe read the in-game guide and learn how dodge works and how different branches counter each other. It's like a big game of paper-rock-scissors, so knowing which branches are strong against others is very helpful.

The Panda Warrior's ultimate is magic damage, which is not dodgeable by default. If the Panda Warrior had focussed on Ultimate branch, they'd likely be doing a lot of magic damage.

The Panda Warrior's talent is 25% chance to heal whenever they take damage. If your Demon Shadow had high attack speed, you were probably causing the Panda Warrior to heal more often. That healing talent scales with hero level, so it can be useful for Panda Warrior to build several branches rather than just focus on getting one branch to 40. (It's not necessarily a weakness that the Panda Warrior didn't have a 4-star branch.)

I play Yugioh so I refuse to read games but I reached Master 2 in 1 week from starting playing by spamming wound and attack speed. It seems very effective and defensive builds seem genuinely weaker than aggressive ones.

[Lactose Intolerant Volcano God]

Originally posted by User_XO:

I play Yugioh so I refuse to read games but I reached Master 2 in 1 week from starting playing by spamming wound and attack speed. It seems very effective and defensive builds seem genuinely weaker than aggressive ones.

That's cool, you should play however you want to.
It sounds like neither Dodge branch nor Panda Warrior suit you playstyle. Underestimate them at your peril, as both can be strong against high attack speed heroes. Perfect Rebound reflects your attacks back at you as magic damage, and Panda heals when you attack and then can reflect that healing back to you as physical damage using Medical Explosion.

[Roids]

Many have anti dodge, 5star its 49% chance that dodge dont work, on attack char its like sure win. Same 4u, if u see miss attack its just pick it up. There are some chars with right tree taken that really are broken and unbeatable even, most have to do with ult tree,