Extracting Paz

[metal_hamster]

Is the complete opposite of what I want from a MGS game. Feels like a poor man's Splinter Cell and that is not trolling. I don't want to be rummaging through 20 guards just to extract this useless woman. Tedious gameplay.

[Epic The Incandescent]

引用自 Kanaev：

I don't like extracting Chico, beacuse of this piece of ♥♥♥♥ Paz rushed and got into Zeke and all happened. She could have sang at the concert and changed her mind. But that little ♥♥♥♥...

I know your topic is not about that. But that's the mission. You need to get someone out - you do that. Don't like it? Don't play it. There's mission to take guys / things out. Great easter fest like Deja, heli cover and stuff. This short game has a lot in it.

spoooilllleeeeerrrrsss

[metal_hamster]

引用自 Coldsmoke：

Yeah the main mission is lame. but the others are actually fun so I don't see the point of complaining.

Who said there was a point, sometimes it's just good to get it out there.

[Saint Pablo]

引用自 Tangsta：

引用自 metal_hamster：

I know, just need the mental state to pull it off. I wish you could tranq her too. It worked on Chico.

What good would tranquillizing her do? Her noises rarely ever alert the guards.

You were complaining how in Splinter Cell, gun fights were forced upon you, and here you're complaining about it's too hard to stealth her out of the base. I'm not really sure what you want in the genre.

My advice: give the game a break for a week, then come back to it, finish the mission and enjoy the awesome cutscene that follows and a plethora of fun content. It's such a shame you're judging the game when you've only experienced 5% of the content. The missions where Kojima himself makes a cameo is a must play, nobody should miss out on it!

I wanted to tranq her cause my parents were asking about "Weird noises".

[Sarda]

Are we talking about the real Splinter Cell games? Like the ones before Double Agent, before they became ♥♥♥♥♥♥ action games with optional stealth?

[metal_hamster]

引用自 Sarda：

Are we talking about the real Splinter Cell games? Like the ones before Double Agent, before they became ♥♥♥♥♥♥ action games with optional stealth?

Double Agent did not have any action sequences, or not ones that come to mind. Great game. I was generally referring to the last two Conviction and Blacklist.

[Covert]

If you can't get past that Paz extraction on easy mode with reflex enabled, then you are just plain bad and are complaining about your instabilities, not the objective Kojima chose for the main mission. Seriously, suck it up, finish the mission and do the side missions for different stealth experiences.

[metal_hamster]

引用自 Covert：

If you can't get past that Paz extraction on easy mode with reflex enabled, then you are just plain bad and are complaining about your instabilities, not the objective Kojima chose for the main mission. Seriously, suck it up, finish the mission and do the side missions for different stealth experiences.

I don't recall saying I couldn't get past it. Seriously, post where I said I couldn't... I bet you can't. So go suck yourself.

[Saint Pablo]

引用自 Covert：

If you can't get past that Paz extraction on easy mode with reflex enabled, then you are just plain bad and are complaining about your instabilities, not the objective Kojima chose for the main mission. Seriously, suck it up, finish the mission and do the side missions for different stealth experiences.

He isn't bad.The game is incredibly easy to get used to.All you have to do is just not get detected.He just doesn't have enough patience.

[metal_hamster]

引用自 Greed：

引用自 Covert：

If you can't get past that Paz extraction on easy mode with reflex enabled, then you are just plain bad and are complaining about your instabilities, not the objective Kojima chose for the main mission. Seriously, suck it up, finish the mission and do the side missions for different stealth experiences.

He isn't bad.The game is incredibly easy to get used to.All you have to do is just not get detected.He just doesn't have enough patience.

Spot on! :P

[Covert]

Your rant, translated is "I bought a stealth game, with stealth gameplay, part of a series with a long history of requiring stealth, and I'm pissed off that I have to use stealth to extract Paz. I don't even like stealth". You definitely called out your dislike for stealth games in your first post, so really, why the ♥♥♥♥ are you here then?

As others mentioned, the main mission is an extract, which has importance for story purposes. Finish it, then play the side ops for better, more usual MGS stealth gameplay. While it is tedious, Kojima included Reflex mode, which opens up the gameplay to a much broader audience. It is a good addition to get new blood into the series, but nonetheless is also a crutch. You can watch YouTube videos all day long of people running and gunning their way through the mission(s), abusing Reflex and never triggering an alert. If someone can pull that off with ease, then the extract of Paz is a cakewalk and is not "tedious" unless you are playing on Hard mode with Reflex disabled.

You are on the forums complaining about the extract, and I therefore said you're bad since I'll bet this is not a Hard mode/ Reflex off type of extract you're complaining about.

[Covert]

引用自 metal_hamster：

引用自 Greed：

He isn't bad.The game is incredibly easy to get used to.All you have to do is just not get detected.He just doesn't have enough patience.

Spot on! :P

Spot on!, but you also said you hate stealth games, so again, why are you here?

[metal_hamster]

I don't hate stealth games? When did I say that exactly? I have completed the first 5 splinter games atleast 3x each, the first 3 on hard mode. I have finished every MGS game atleast 3x (MGS3 and the original about 10x each) and even played the crap out of the original Metal Gear games back in the day. I also have a love of Thief, Chronicles of Riddick and Dishonored.

The point of my thread was the fact that it was a poor mission choice which in my opinion feels extremely tedious and as history has already proven was not a great choice. A lot of people have hated this kind of mission in MGS and Splinter Cell before and I'm voicing them now.

Some of you people are looking waaay too much into it. Learn to read and understand guys.

[i suck willy]

引用自 metal_hamster：

The point of my thread was the fact that it was a poor mission choice.

That's just your opinion, yeah, you are entitled to an opinion, but that is all it is. I'm not sure what else you expected really?, after all, you could of just watched youtube videos months ago to see if you would like the prologue and what it would offer you in terms of gameplay and story.

[metal_hamster]

引用自 slirazer：

引用自 metal_hamster：

The point of my thread was the fact that it was a poor mission choice.

That's just your opinion, yeah, you are entitled to an opinion, but that is all it is. I'm not sure what else you expected really?, after all, you could of just watched youtube videos months ago to see if you would like the prologue and what it would offer you in terms of gameplay and story.

True but you don't get a feel for the game by watching videos. Some moronic 15 yr olds might think so but I intend on playing MGS V which means at some point I'm going to play this.

Of course we're all entitled to an opinion but the raging fan boys are so up their own back side it kind of makes it irrelavant to pretty much everyone it would seem.

[Saint Pablo]

Playing the game is alot different than seeing a video of it.