S Ranking Jamais Vu on Hard

[MrFluffyWolf]

How.
How do you do it? I've S Ranked everything else, got all the achievements in the game, and I'm still at 99%, so I assume it's because Jamais Vu hard is complete bull and I only ever got an A on it.
Any tips? I know where I screw up. I can do everything perfectly stealthy up until the chopper comes in and you have to defend it.
Now there is a WONDERFUL guide to getting 100% here in the steam guides tab, and it reccomends laying down near the vent/storehouse down the road from the security gate to the admin area.
This does work for the first few guys coming out, but since silencers are so fragile, you have to be a deadeye and not miss a single shot. If you miss, chances are with how they're scrambling, they'll run to cover by the red door behind the boxes to the right of the gate.
I have not found a way of approaching that without being seen.
On top of this, laying by that building isn't perfect either, because I have been randomly seen there while prone and doing nothing. Not even shooting.

So yeah... This is the single hardest part in the entire game (for me anyway). Any help?

[Maniac]

A big trick I used for the guys at the end (cause they do screw with your score due to the alerts) is using a rocket launcher and getting a big group of them at once when they run out. Then pick off the guys hiding behind the boxes in the head. Try to keep your gun silenced as it increases your risk of getting alerted if they're not.

[Roni]

There are two ways I've used to do it:

Use C4 to carpet the main gate (from the door they spawn at to the outer edges of the runway) for the second wave of enemies - the ones that run for the AA guns - if you time it right, letting the first ones get really far from the gate, you can kill the entire wave without firing a shot. Kill the rest with the silenced AM Rifle, if you're spending the one you start with before getting to that point in the mission, grab the spare with the blue light on the Admin building armory before starting the final fight.

The other, easier, way to do it is to get an A in the mission and then use the Sniper Rifle from the watch towers to kill the snatchers from a distance they can't detect you. They'll spawn and immediately focus on the helicopter, leaving you free to kill them. They may complain about a sniper in the area, but the helicopter will keep them at bay and prevent most of them from come looking for you.

If you wear out your silencer in the middle of the fight and find yourself in a pinch, remember that shots fired from a distance don't immediately trigger a Combat Alert. Therefore, you can still 'snipe' them with a standard rifle if you're patient and a good shot.

[MrFluffyWolf]

Great advice from both of you!
I haven't gotten it yet, but I'm lasting longer without getting caught.
Using the rocket launcher tactic, I get MOST of them, but somtimes some guy catches the edge of the blast and survives, then sees me later. Or one of the fast dudes that runs for the AA guns will see me aiming the rocket.
Will continue to try though, it's mostly my aim needing practice
I'm going to try Roni's sniper idea now. I got an A rank recently and have the sniper. We'll see how this pans out.

[Roni]

Originally posted by MrFluffyWolf:

I'm going to try Roni's sniper idea now. I got an A rank recently and have the sniper. We'll see how this pans out.

The watch tower closest to the main gate is only good for the first wave. After that wave is finished you should move farther back to the watch tower by the warehouses or to the top of the building closest to the AA gun by the bridge.

[MrFluffyWolf]

Originally posted by Roni:

Originally posted by MrFluffyWolf:

I'm going to try Roni's sniper idea now. I got an A rank recently and have the sniper. We'll see how this pans out.

The watch tower closest to the main gate is only good for the first wave. After that wave is finished you should move farther back to the watch tower by the warehouses or to the top of the building closest to the AA gun by the bridge.

Worked like a charm!
..Except sadly I took too long being cautious and setting everything up I still got a B despite not being caught...Soo.. I'll try again tomorrow.
Thank you though!
Never got caught.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by MrFluffyWolf:

Originally posted by Roni:

The watch tower closest to the main gate is only good for the first wave. After that wave is finished you should move farther back to the watch tower by the warehouses or to the top of the building closest to the AA gun by the bridge.

Worked like a carm!
..Except sadly I took too long being cautious and setting everything up I still got a B despite not being caught...Soo.. I'll try again tomorrow.
Thank you though!
Never got caught.

Also make sure you don't kill any humans before you're fighting off the waves of enemies. I would also turn off reflex mode to help with the S ranking

[Roni]

Originally posted by (Box Ghosts) Maniac_34:

I would also turn off reflex mode to help with the S ranking

Yeah, if you're using Reflex to save some detections from becoming Combat Alerts, you might have a hard time getting the S rank like he said. You'll either need to play without letting Reflex trigger or speed through the level so fast the Completion Time score makes up for the lost Reflex bonus. But I'm assuming you're already playing without Reflex.

[MrFluffyWolf]

Originally posted by Roni:

Originally posted by (Box Ghosts) Maniac_34:

I would also turn off reflex mode to help with the S ranking

Yeah, if you're using Reflex to save some detections from becoming Combat Alerts, you might have a hard time getting the S rank like he said. You'll either need to play without letting Reflex trigger or speed through the level so fast the Completion Time score makes up for the lost Reflex bonus. But I'm assuming you're already playing without Reflex.

Good advice in general, but yeah, I already play without Reflex.
Helps practice stealth and makes S ranks possible.
Never got an S rank with it on.

[Fission Mailed]

If I recall well, I hide behind the boxes (where jeep is parked in Deja Vu mission) and just picked the soldiers from the distance when they come out. There are few barrels for some group killing :) With rocket launcher I destroyed the choppers and AA guns.

[MrFluffyWolf]

So.. I managed to do it again, but I STILL got an A, and I don't understand. is 16 minutes too slow?
Here is my results screen: http://puu.sh/g2SuR/90a46a0600.jpg
What can I possibly do to improve this?

[Maniac]

Originally posted by MrFluffyWolf:

So.. I managed to do it again, but I STILL got an A, and I don't understand. is 16 minutes too slow?
Here is my results screen: http://puu.sh/g2SuR/90a46a0600.jpg
What can I possibly do to improve this?

Wow that really sucks.

I guess 16 minutes is too slow. That's the only way you can improve that score.

[Roni]

I made it in 10, I think. You gotta abuse Raiden's ninja run... The level is balanced around it too, so the score necessary for S rank is a little higher than Deja Vu, I believe. But the fight is actually pretty quick, my guess is you're taking too long to get to it. The first 7 guys should be dispatched in less than 4-5 minutes.

You neutralize the two in the refugee camp, the two by the warehouse, tranq the human by the main gate. Climb the nearby watchtower and wait for the jeep neutralize the guards when it briefly stops as it passes the main gate - you can take them out way before that if you're a decent marksman. Then move to the Admin building and get the other 3.

Remember to move the tranquilized guards away from the helipad, they may wake up and start roaming again before you finish the last 3.

[MrFluffyWolf]

I finally did it!
Thank you everyone! I used a little bit of advice from everyone, practiced to reduce my time, and boom! 100%.
See y'all in the Phantom Pain!

[Maniac]

Originally posted by MrFluffyWolf:

I finally did it!
Thank you everyone! I used a little bit of advice from everyone, practiced to reduce my time, and boom! 100%.
See y'all in the Phantom Pain!

Yay! Good job

[Roni]

Congratulations!