SpellForce 3 Reforced

SpellForce 3 Reforced

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Is the timeline messed up?
BIG spoilers about the ending of both Spellforce 1 and Spellforce 3

So in Spellforce 1 we have the old Rohen and the Dark One Rohen.
Both of them survived the convocation. Dark Rohen later kills old Rohen and at the end of the campaign travels back in time to achieve godlike powers through the convocation. But though a book he takes from old Rohen, he realized that is impossible. So he tried to stop dark Rohen, his younger self, from being stupid. He failed and again they were the only surviving circle mages. Dark Rohen killed old Rohen and so on.

Now, in Spellforce 3 we have young Rohen, who joined Tahar, betrayed him and then joined Tahar junior. At the end of the campaign, the circle is funded, which he joined immediately.
Since dark Rohen ist younger than old Rohen, young Rohen has to become dark Rohen, then kill his older self after the convocation, travel back in time, then become old Rohen. But old Rohen is also a part of the circle. The problem with that is that Rohen only appears in the circle one time, but has to be in it twice. One time as dark Rohen, one time as old Rohen.

I feel like something does not add up there. I`m confused.
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~P~R~I~M~A~L~ Jan 10, 2018 @ 7:52am 
Not sure if this answers your question but 3 takes place before 1.
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Keaton Jan 10, 2018 @ 8:04am 
Like said above me, it's 500+ years before Spellforce 3.So you didn't notice that the world isn't fragmented into little pieces?

Also old Rohan didn't gain any powers from the convocation, the ritual is a hoax that didn't grant them any power. It roused the archfire of the entire planet and allowed it to fragment/destroy. At most he gained more power (arguably) just through experience and wisdom. Regardless, the series does have a problem with time, years/centures/events being rather oddly put.
Last edited by Keaton; Jan 10, 2018 @ 8:07am
Dramatic_Effect Jan 10, 2018 @ 9:09am 
I am aware of the fact that Spellforce 3 takes place before Spellforce 1. My point is that I don`t see young Rohen(from Spellforce 3) becoming dark Rohen, then travelling back in time to become old Rohen. There are only 13 circle mages, all of whom are known by name and of whom only one is Rohen, despite the fact that appareantly both old and dark Rohen are in the circle.
Farlon Jan 10, 2018 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by Dramatic_Effect:
I am aware of the fact that Spellforce 3 takes place before Spellforce 1. My point is that I don`t see young Rohen(from Spellforce 3) becoming dark Rohen, then travelling back in time to become old Rohen. There are only 13 circle mages, all of whom are known by name and of whom only one is Rohen, despite the fact that appareantly both old and dark Rohen are in the circle.
They dont even have the power of archfire yet, that explains it I hope.
Dramatic_Effect Jan 10, 2018 @ 11:09am 
You mean because power corrupts? That would explain young Rohen turning into dark Rohen, but there still is the problem with Rohen not being in the circle twice(old and dark Rohen).
Farlon Jan 10, 2018 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by Dramatic_Effect:
You mean because power corrupts? That would explain young Rohen turning into dark Rohen, but there still is the problem with Rohen not being in the circle twice(old and dark Rohen).
Because it happens only after convocation, young rohen, corrupted by power, travels back in time to convocation again to control the prime elements, only then he sees that its impossible and this creates a loophole.
Humpbacked Angel Jan 10, 2018 @ 2:12pm 
There aren't 2 Rohens all the time, he only appears on the day when world is blown up and islands made.
Dramatic_Effect Jan 10, 2018 @ 2:38pm 
2 objections.
First, if dark Rohen travelled back in time to the day of the convocation, then he sure has aged a lot in these few years. In the intro of Spellforce 1, which takes place just before the convocation, you can see he is already old, so he most likely travelled back in time a lot farther, at least long enough for him to age physiacally and become the far older looking old Rohen.
Second, in the intro he also has got an army of rune warriors that fights the army of the dark one. Even a circle mage can`t just travel back in time to the very day of the convocation AND then summon an entire army.
Humpbacked Angel Jan 10, 2018 @ 3:02pm 
Yea, its not like we play rune warrior and we summon entire army from air/monolit in matter of seconds :) I'm not sure why everyone says he has an army of orks, in ending cinematic we see he is already going to the tower after stepping throught the time portal. Army may belong to someone else. I just don't remember him saying he summoned anything in that time.
Dramatic_Effect Jan 11, 2018 @ 5:32am 
Ok, good point.
But there still is the problem with his much more aged look (in the intro, so the aging didn`t take place after the convocation) and the fact that (i think) everyone seems to know him as Rohen, the former circle mage, not as some guy who showed up after the convocation.
He also talked to the rune warrior as an "old friend", indicating that he was one of his warriors and he took part in the circle wars.

Edit:
Possible solution: Dark Rohen travelled back in time to a point well before the convocation( so he has time to age), but hides in order to prepare for this ritual(ages during that time). He then realizes it is impossibel to control that much power and tries to stop dark Rohen from being stupid. After the convocation he simply introduced himself as "Rohen Tahir, former circle mage, don`t worry, I`m a good guy now, here, have a portal, wanna join this awesome order I just founded?"
Since the real dark Rohen that took part in the circle wars wasn`t around to prove him wrong and old Rohen had old the memories dark Rohen has, nobody would doubt that dark Rohen is ashamed of what he did and now tries to make up for his past mistakes.
All those rune warriors from the intro that know him from the circle wars actually just remember dark Rohen. Your rune warrior never fought under old Rohen in the circle wars, but under dark Rohen.

Unless I missed something, that should answer my question.
Last edited by Dramatic_Effect; Jan 11, 2018 @ 5:59am
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