SpellForce 3 Reforced

SpellForce 3 Reforced

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Gadzooks Nov 25, 2017 @ 9:29pm
Why do the graphics look so washed out?
Anyone else notice this? The colors seem a bit faded or washed out.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xGXhDn2w8j0/WhpQPUeoyJI/AAAAAAAAIjo/EiPcfjGszx0rIo_9RBeaKohSwDXSp3L_gCL0BGAYYCw/h1080/2017-11-25.png

Everything is super high detail, but the colors just seem like a thin layer of mist is covering them 100% of the time

Especially compared to this promotional screenshot here

https://gpstatic.com/acache/31/82/1/uk/s4-17dd73b3a0200ea7c6dcf20ceee67eb2.jpg

you can see how the greens and other colors look more vibrant and crisp overall


EDIT:

Thanks for the dev reply. Looks like they plan on trying to improve this

Originally posted by Raphael:
Hey guys, Art Director here, thanks for the feedback, and yes we devs read through all the feedback, of course we cant adress everything but in terms of the posteffects and the "washed out" look on some maps, i can assure you that this should be solved soon as im currently reworking the posteffect settings.

Just to explain what happened - we reworked our posteffect system so the settings i did earlier in the production lead to some unpleasant (and washed out) results. Looking forward to see (and read) what you guys/gals think of the release version!

EDIT 2

Looks like despite the response from Raphael from the Spellforce team, the "fix" for this issue is not in the live, released version of the game. Nor did it show up in the games first patch on Dec 11.

Hopefully we will get some info from them on the status of the "fix" and when we should expect it.
Last edited by Gadzooks; Dec 11, 2017 @ 3:45pm
Originally posted by NeoX:
Copy & Paste of my answer here:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/311290/discussions/0/3397295779068433315/

hey! Sry for the late responce but your thread did get lost to me.

If you want to remove the "PostFX Effects". Like this "unsharpness" and "wide range mist" and increase the colors then just do the following:

Step 1:
Go to "...\SteamApps\common\SpellForce 3\bin_win32\configs"

Step 2:
open "visuals.txt" with your text-editor

Step 3:
change the first line from "PostFXEnabled True" to "PostFXEnabled False"

Step 4:
Save the changes

Step 5:
Play SpellForce 3 without any PostFX effects and in "full colors" (if you like it so much better ;-) )
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VooDooPC Nov 26, 2017 @ 11:42am 
I noticed this too. The blacks (shadows, fog of war, etc) look very grey. I know it's not my monitor because there's UI elements that are definitly black.

I found if I scroll the screen so it's completely covered in fog of war the fog of war goes from the greyish color to real black.

Edit: Seems my above comment about going absolute black is not always true.
Last edited by VooDooPC; Nov 26, 2017 @ 2:12pm
Keaton Nov 26, 2017 @ 1:38pm 
Weather patterns perhaps? Grasping at straws here from first glances.
VooDooPC Nov 26, 2017 @ 2:14pm 
Here's a screenshot from the game in fog of war. I feel like it should be pitch black, instead it's a greyish hue.

https://i.imgur.com/EXu0csV.png
Last edited by VooDooPC; Nov 26, 2017 @ 4:24pm
Colonel Poochie Nov 27, 2017 @ 12:37pm 
That is a big difference....misleading and possibly having 2nd thoughts on getting this..which is it?
Last edited by Colonel Poochie; Nov 27, 2017 @ 12:38pm
Colonel Poochie Nov 27, 2017 @ 12:39pm 
Originally posted by VooDooPC:
Here's a screenshot from the game in fog of war. I feel like it should be pitch black, instead it's a greyish hue.

https://i.imgur.com/EXu0csV.png

That is minor to me..big whoopee you still can't see anything. I am worried about the washing out of colors.
VooDooPC Nov 27, 2017 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Colonel Poochie:
Originally posted by VooDooPC:
Here's a screenshot from the game in fog of war. I feel like it should be pitch black, instead it's a greyish hue.

https://i.imgur.com/EXu0csV.png

That is minor to me..big whoopee you still can't see anything. I am worried about the washing out of colors.
They are obviously related.
Gadzooks Nov 27, 2017 @ 2:27pm 
its probably some post processing filter thats being applied to the whole screen, affecting everything you see, even the fog of war "black".

Whatever the case, its very bleh to look at, and I hope they either fix it or give us an option to disable it.
Colonel Poochie Nov 27, 2017 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by VooDooPC:
Originally posted by Colonel Poochie:

That is minor to me..big whoopee you still can't see anything. I am worried about the washing out of colors.
They are obviously related.
If it was obvious I would have figured it out....maybe not.
VooDooPC Nov 27, 2017 @ 5:26pm 
Originally posted by Colonel Poochie:
Originally posted by VooDooPC:
They are obviously related.
If it was obvious I would have figured it out....maybe not.
As Gadzooks said, it's some kind of filter that effects all colors and makes everything washed out, including the "black" fog of war.

I posted the screenshot of the fog of war because it's very easy to see the issue there. The fog of war should be black, not whatever greyish color it is. Just like all the other colors should be more intense. I am not complaining specifically about the fog of war, I just thought the saturation was very clear there.

Sorry it wasn't as obvious as I thought.
Colonel Poochie Nov 28, 2017 @ 4:39am 
No problem, I should have put 2+2 together. No other comments on this? This is kinda big.
Gadzooks Nov 28, 2017 @ 9:15am 
I dont even know if the devs are reading the steam forum, unfortunately.

For me, the washed out look of the visuals is enough to make me not want to play, as its not very appealing to look at, and in some cases, even causes me to visually strain to see the details of what is going on.
Námumaður Nov 28, 2017 @ 10:50am 
Might be Depth of Field, maybe FXAA as it is post effect antialiasing. Those can be turned of so when can test it when its available again.
R6 Siege had problems with washed out look when using those post-processing AA filters as well. I'd rather look at some artifact edges :D.
Last edited by Námumaður; Nov 28, 2017 @ 10:55am
Gadzooks Nov 28, 2017 @ 1:34pm 
ive disabled all settings and nothing removes the effect.
Colonel Poochie Nov 28, 2017 @ 4:27pm 
Originally posted by Gadzooks:
ive disabled all settings and nothing removes the effect.

Dang. Oh weil, spend my $45 on somethin' else if this can't be fixed.
Whitehaven Nov 29, 2017 @ 1:12am 
Write to the devs on facebook or in the discord, there are a few of them there almost all day. I will too.
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