Marriage

[rincewind]

I'm wondering if in this new game will be possible to have same sex marriages.
I was interested in the previous game, but in the end that was the thing that tipped the balance and I never bought it.
Hopefuly in this new one will be different. Anyone has any info? I checked this forums and the official forum but couldn't find anything. (Of course, my searching skills surely need to level up a bit, so, maybe there's info and I can't find it).

[Major Depression]

rincewind původně napsal:

Daryus původně napsal:

I'm not sensitive, it's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ boring. The time period doesn't allow for it, get over it. ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Oh, sorry, I thought that was a game, not a History lesson.

To be fair, The Guild games do try to be somewhat historically accurate.

[Two-Tailed Cat]

Part Time Hobo původně napsal:

rincewind původně napsal:

Oh, sorry, I thought that was a game, not a History lesson.

To be fair, The Guild games do try to be somewhat historically accurate.

I touched on this before, but I think I'll take some time to elaborate. Yes and no. It is first and foremost an economic simulation game with a medieval theme. There are many, many places where gameplay trumps history. Gender has never been historically accurately represented, and I don't think it's due to gameplay concerns (it would have been trivial to simply limit the player to a male character). Instead, the developers consciously chose to allow players to play as a woman, and even to force them to play as a woman if that was the gender of your firstborn heir.

1) Because the game would kind of suck if your inheritance got split up upon your character dying, the games enforce Absolute Primogeniture succession, giving all your stuff to your firstborn regardless of gender. In most societies, unless you were a king (and even then very, very few cultures allowed women to inherit the title), all of your stuff would get split up, and in some cases the male heirs would get a double share over female heirs.

2) Women were certainly not allowed to hold political office.

3) Some societies did not value a woman's word in court! Imagine a game of The Guild where you can't press charges against the idiots who keep firebombing your business!

4) Women would not be guards and would not participate in combat.

5) Women could not enjoy the full benefit of guilds.

6) Female clergy? Clergy being able to marry? You would be unable to continue your dynasty by choosing this profession. I understand that The Guild 3 will not allow the clergy profession, so I'm curious if this was the reasoning.

And so on...

So, unless The Guild 3 is going in a more historically accurate direction, I really don't think that the medieval theme is a legitimate argument against same sex relationships. Besides, I doubt that you'd even notice if this were in the game, I bet the AI would be set to not do it, or rarely do it, and you could probably modify the value.

[Spartanlemur]

rincewind původně napsal:

Why is some people as thick as a brick?

Sorry If I offended all of you with a question. You all are way to sensible.
And I'm not even asking for making an option, just to making it moddable, not like The Guild 2.

If you only want it to be moddable then that's quite reasonable. We all would like moddability.

[magoo]

if they added that it would make your game very short since the kids run the business once you die and keep it running. I guess they could add an adoption option, but the game isn't really about the relationships you just use them as tools for creating your dynasty.

[red mist]

Considering the game is made by conservatives, ted cruz supporters , As far to the right as you can get. I think not :S

[Major Depression]

$1,000 Salad Dressing původně napsal:

Considering the game is made by conservatives, ted cruz supporters , As far to the right as you can get. I think not :S

Ted Cruz supporters?

You realize Golem Labs is in Quebec, Canada, right? (Source: http://www.golemlabs.com/?about) Their political riding has elected NDP MPs since 2011 and hasn't seen a Conservative candidate elected since 1997

Seriously where are you getting your information from

[Flay]

Part Time Hobo původně napsal:

$1,000 Salad Dressing původně napsal:

Considering the game is made by conservatives, ted cruz supporters , As far to the right as you can get. I think not :S

Ted Cruz supporters?

You realize Golem Labs is in Quebec, Canada, right? (Source: http://www.golemlabs.com/?about) Their political riding has elected NDP MPs since 2011 and hasn't seen a Conservative candidate elected since 1997

Seriously where are you getting your information from

Ahaha, I don't understand these idiots either.

[Gabriel Syme]

$1,000 Salad Dressing původně napsal:

Considering the game is made by conservatives, ted cruz supporters , As far to the right as you can get. I think not :S

I don't support gay marriage in this game because I want ideology far from games. Why I want this? Because I hate this kind of idiotic argument like the argument of the guy above. Whatever the develops are: right or left wing, green, red or protestants bigots for me don't import. I only want a game for fun, not for remember this ♥♥♥♥ of real world.

[rincewind]

Seriously people, let's leave politics and all that stuff out of this.

[Gabriel Syme]

rincewind původně napsal:

Seriously people, let's leave politics and all that stuff out of this.

Impossible: gay marriage only exists because is a political agenda. Therefore, who wants put politics in the games is who wants to put gay marriage in games. Simple as that.

[Gabriel Syme]

And... I don't say same sex relationships because it isn't a political banner. Look, people can and should relate to whoever they want!!! I said "gay marriage" because that's what is the political agenda of parties who want to put people against each other to win votes, like the greens and reds.

[rincewind]

Gabriel Syme původně napsal:

rincewind původně napsal:

Seriously people, let's leave politics and all that stuff out of this.

Impossible: gay marriage only exists because is a political agenda. Therefore, who wants put politics in the games is who wants to put gay marriage in games. Simple as that.

... seriously?
Can't you take a break for the fanatic politics thingie?

[Mr. Bear]

Given the theme of the game i say it's not a very good idea to implement same sex marriage in this setting.

Also, i find it extremely rude that you come here and flat out say that you did not buy the previous game because of the one very small aspect.

Look elsewhere, preferably away from here.

[rincewind]

DarkOmegaMK2 původně napsal:

Given the theme of the game i say it's not a very good idea to implement same sex marriage in this setting.

Also, i find it extremely rude that you come here and flat out say that you did not buy the previous game because of the one very small aspect.

Look elsewhere, preferably away from here.

That's not exactly what I said.
Having that possibility, at least with a mod, could have tipped the balance in the other way. Possibly.

And I don't think that I was rude. My apologies if someone has felt offended, but I think that you're overreacting a bit here. And being a bit rude too. Which is quite ironic, truth to be told.

[Major Depression]

Can A mod just lock this thread? It's getting to the point it's just petty bickering without discussing any of the original topic in terms of TG3