Is this game full of Anti-Communist propaganda like the other CoDs?

[Crazy Alchemy]

I remember when I loaded Black Ops I think it was on Wii, and on the menu screen, one of the first things it did was say something about Castro. I mean, this has been a theme in every CoD game I've ever played, some weird Cold War era propaganda BS, and I just know someone who doesn't know anything about anything except for what they've seen on FOX news is going
"Dur hur, yeah, Castro, he's really bad, he'd totally launch a missile"

[Soren]

I find the whole anti-communism propaganda that America was famous for to be a little funny when you put China in the picture.

Heck, I have a funny imagine about some of that propaganda.
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--cogv53oU--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/195ltaz2nd3svjpg.jpg

[Crazy Alchemy]

引用自 DOOMAXE：

引用自 Red Cyka：

All you're doing is hurling insults and spewing out a gish gallop of inflammatory anticommunist propaganda taken straight out of some John Birch Society manual or Cold War video.

You haven't presented anything worth refuting, what you have presented is like something off Rush Limbaugh.

*ignores the rest*

Case and point, ladies and gentlemen.

When you have valid points and arguments let me know. Everything you've said so far has just been opinion and emotional garbage mixed in with baseless propaganda that you can't support with facts.

[Chew Ass and Kick Bubblegum]

引用自 DOOMAXE：

I hope it will be, because Communism and Communists are cancerous to this world. However, I doubt it since the theme is 'in the future.'

This. No matter what the internet hipsters say, communism is a wretched cancer.
I don't really like to protect USA, but they're the "least evil" out of current world players.

[Crazy Alchemy]

引用自 Scimitar101：

引用自 DOOMAXE：

I hope it will be, because Communism and Communists are cancerous to this world. However, I doubt it since the theme is 'in the future.'

This. No matter what the internet hipsters say, communism is a wretched cancer.

I'm sorry that you find the idea that non-justified heirarchy should be abolished and that workers should control their own environment to be so cancerous.

引用自 Scimitar101：

I don't really like to protect USA, but they're the "least evil" out of current world players.

Really? You seriously can't think of any other nation less evil than a country that has conducted unethical medical experiments on it's own people, routinely invades third world countries with no means of defending themselves, supports tyrannical regimes like the Saudis, and uses economic sanctions and acts of espionage to inflict poverty and suffering on non-allied states?

[Soren]

引用自 Red Cyka：

引用自 Scimitar101：

This. No matter what the internet hipsters say, communism is a wretched cancer.

I'm sorry that you find the idea that non-justified heirarchy should be abolished and that workers should control their own environment to be so cancerous.

引用自 Scimitar101：

I don't really like to protect USA, but they're the "least evil" out of current world players.

Really? You seriously can't think of any other nation less evil than a country that has conducted unethical medical experiments on it's own people, routinely invades third world countries with no means of defending themselves, supports tyrannical regimes like the Saudis, and uses economic sanctions and acts of espionage to inflict poverty and suffering on non-allied states?

You forgot taking away their own citizen's rights in times of distress. The funny thing is Canada (and America as well I believe) is guilty of it. We stuck the Japanese Canadians in camps, took away everything they owned, all because we were at war with Japan. No one ever tries to villianize all our polictical beliefs based on some of the stupidest moments it has had.

[0d1nn]

引用自 Red Cyka：

引用自 DOOMAXE：

Case and point, ladies and gentlemen.

When you have valid points and arguments let me know. Everything you've said so far has just been opinion and emotional garbage mixed in with baseless propaganda that you can't support with facts.

Circular arguments. Anybody who reads the thread will know you're full of it. Everybody knows that Communists don't care for facts or logic because they will answer the way you just have - with insults and claims and emotion - just as you have been demonstrating this whole time.

Now I know you like to argue, so enjoy arguing with others. Cheers.

[Crazy Alchemy]

引用自 DOOMAXE：

引用自 Red Cyka：

When you have valid points and arguments let me know. Everything you've said so far has just been opinion and emotional garbage mixed in with baseless propaganda that you can't support with facts.

Circular arguments

I don't believe that you understand the concept of what a circular argument is. You are misapplying the term.

Everything else you said is simply an insult/ad hom and doesn't merit a response.

[The Big OT]

引用自 DOOMAXE：

引用自 Red Cyka：

When you have valid points and arguments let me know. Everything you've said so far has just been opinion and emotional garbage mixed in with baseless propaganda that you can't support with facts.

Circular arguments. Anybody who reads the thread will know you're full of it. Everybody knows that Communists don't care for facts or logic because they will answer the way you just have - with insults and claims and emotion - just as you have been demonstrating this whole time.

Now I know you like to argue, so enjoy arguing with others. Cheers.

I'm argueing with a dude like him on youtube as well that thinks Putin is the best thing since sliced bread. They will love a communist society until people like him are under the boot and purged out of fear of revolution, and for the crime of thinking too much.

[The Big OT]

引用自 Aidar Kebaboff：

引用自 September Rust：

Is there not one Russian or Rusophile that has anything bad to say about Putin, thier communist legacy, or Stalin?

Me! Me!
But I won't tell anything, I am not interested in chitchat on Steam forums.

I have hope again! Steam forums or whereever. I just like to know there is some dissent to Putin. Ask any American what they think the president and you'll most likely get a 50/50 hate him/ love him responce. Everyone but you I've talked to from the Rus Fed revere Putin as a god.

[Crazy Alchemy]

引用自 September Rust：

引用自 DOOMAXE：

Circular arguments. Anybody who reads the thread will know you're full of it. Everybody knows that Communists don't care for facts or logic because they will answer the way you just have - with insults and claims and emotion - just as you have been demonstrating this whole time.

Now I know you like to argue, so enjoy arguing with others. Cheers.

I'm argueing with a dude like him on youtube as well that thinks Putin is the best thing

Putin isn't even a communist, he's actually quite hostile to communism, I'd think some knee jerk anti communist bigot infected with John Birch Society and Cold War era propaganda would love him. I guess there are people still ignorant enough to automatically assume that anything Russian is Communism.

Also I'm curious, how do you reconcile your ignorant preconceptions about communism with the existence of anarcho-communist philosophies and authors some of which were even contemporaries of Marx?

[0d1nn]

引用自 Red Cyka：

引用自 September Rust：

I'm argueing with a dude like him on youtube as well that thinks Putin is the best thing

Putin isn't even a communist, he's actually quite hostile to communism, I'd think some knee jerk anti communist bigot infected with John Birch Society and Cold War era propaganda would love him. I guess there are people still ignorant enough to automatically assume that anything Russian is Communism.

Also I'm curious, how do you reconcile your ignorant preconceptions about communism with the existence of anarcho-communist philosophies and authors some of which were even contemporaries of Marx?

Right, we are all bigots because we don't agree with you. Etc., etc., Of course, it's us who are insulting you and personally attacking you. (Not the other way around.) Etc., etc., Clearly we are the bigots blinded by racism and class warfare and if we just accept Communism, our utopia will come true. Etc., Etc.,

If we'd just be pefectly acceptable with handing all of our wealth, property, land, and anything of value that is ours to State central government who will then decide who needs it, our utopia would come true.

If we'd just allow for all of our labor to be subsidized and marginalized so that every work gets paid the same, our utopia would come true. Nevermind that doctor who needs to put in 5 times the amount of work, he will make 1,000 rubles a month just as the uneducated man digging dirt in the street. We are equal in this utopia.

If only we'd just submit to the idea of Marx that all the strife and problems in the world were due to class warfare and allow a centralized government to forcibly and violently crush all classes into one (creating two new classes in the process - ironically one of them poor and another rich (the government) then our utopia would come true. What are the lives of 100 more million but a price to pay in our quest for absolute equality and Utopian landscapes?

If only Red Cyka's version of Communism would be implemented... you know... the "true" version of Communism... everybody would have everything and everybody would be equal, happy, with plenty of food, well paid work,educations, and our Utopia would be perfect. Russia did it wrong in 1905 and 1917 just as the Chinese banged it up in 1949,and Cuba? They were amaeuters who had no idea what they were doing. The Khmer Rouge? Absolute idiots. In fact, Red Cyka's version of Communism, I believe, will lead all us to the happy future he so idealistically clings to.

No amount of reality, biology, or Scientific truths will stop the idealistic Communist from creating the perfect Utopia, by golly. Even if it means extreme opression, GULAGs, mass murders, the proggressive future will be true! За родину!!!!!!!!!!!

[Crazy Alchemy]

引用自 DOOMAXE：

*snip*

Everything you said were just personal attacks and straw man mischaracterizations of what I've said and my positions followed by gish galloping hysterical propaganda throwing out buzz words. You never answered how you reconcile your ignorant preconceptions with anarcho communist philosophies and anarcho communist authors throughout history. You also never address where I pointed out that Putin is not a communist. You may consider it insulting to say that it's ignorant to automatically assume that just because Putin is Russian he's somehow a communist, but it's even a logical fallacy to do so, and Putin has been in many ways politically hostile towards communists.

[Ocelot]

引用自 DOOMAXE：

Red Cyka is also demonstrating that Communism appeals to the lowest common denominator because it doesn't require any facts or logic to support. Communism is an ideological of emotions and feelings. That is why Communists are unable to refute with logic or facts but turn everything into a circular argument.

You'll notice also that he only quotes the dogmatic phrases that he can respond to with emotion and simply saying that I don't know what I talk about. He glosses over the very real facts I presented in my response. This way of responding works because most people will just zip to the bottom of this thread to see what the last person said.

Anyway, debating and talking with Communists is a waste of time - they don't have a grasp on reality.

He is a troll, pretends to be a woman and does nothing but argue across TONS of game forums. Look in his post history. It will explain everything,

[Crazy Alchemy]

The bigotry and ignorance is not a simple matter of disagreement, it's a matter of displaying abject hatred and dehumanization of communists while being absolutely unwilling to even acknowledge the actual values and positions real flesh and blood communists actually hold. It's a matter of generalizing all communists according to what is at best gross micharacterizations and more often complete fabrications and misattributions.

[Crazy Alchemy]

引用自 Hoss：

He is a troll

In other words you are incapable of actually responding to the points or arguments I raise with at least a coherent critique of what I said, so you're going to resort to name calling.