Dedicated COMMUNITY servers?

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So, as a PC gamer I think I speak for most other PC gamers out there when I say WE WANT DEDICATED SERVERS.

Without them, the game dies within 8 months and hackers rampage through every single match you join.

Please give us back dedicated servers. If not, I'll probably get my pre-2 hour refund. I'm tired of wasting money on games that die because Treyarch/Activision wants us to only use their servers.

[A Fat Chimp]

The servers used in Black Ops 3 are dedicated servers. Black Ops 3 won't have a server browser, or community hosted servers.

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Escrito originalmente por A Fat Chimp:

The servers used in Black Ops 3 are dedicated servers. Black Ops 3 won't have a server browser, or community hosted servers.

The BO3 beta used the same lobby system we've seen in all CoD games in MW2 and later games. What we need are community-run servers that private groups manage and moderate. THAT's what killed CoD on PC for many clans. The fact that we have to join hacker-infested unmoderated lobbies is a disgrace to PC gaming.

[Methodman]

Escrito originalmente por NickHouston:

Escrito originalmente por A Fat Chimp:

The servers used in Black Ops 3 are dedicated servers. Black Ops 3 won't have a server browser, or community hosted servers.

The BO3 beta used the same lobby system we've seen in all CoD games in MW2 and later games. What we need are community-run servers that private groups manage and moderate. THAT's what killed CoD on PC for many clans. The fact that we have to join hacker-infested unmoderated lobbies is a disgrace to PC gaming.

Stop spreading FUD, lying troll. 3A games, especially their later ones, are not hacker-infested. Look no further than Black Ops 2.

[A Fat Chimp]

Escrito originalmente por NickHouston:

Escrito originalmente por A Fat Chimp:

The servers used in Black Ops 3 are dedicated servers. Black Ops 3 won't have a server browser, or community hosted servers.

The BO3 beta used the same lobby system we've seen in all CoD games in MW2 and later games. What we need are community-run servers that private groups manage and moderate. THAT's what killed CoD on PC for many clans. The fact that we have to join hacker-infested unmoderated lobbies is a disgrace to PC gaming.

Personally, I'm glad they don't have community servers. Don't get me wrong - community servers can be great. Admins can enforce any rule they want, whether it's knife-only, no explosives, no rooftops, name your pick. This can make for interesting servers (for better or worse).

However, in my experience it does more harm than good later in a games life. If I try to find a TDM match in BF3 (North America), I'll have a fairly disappointing list of results:
http://i.imgur.com/ENWWd8l.png

I'll take a healthy map rotation over modified rulesets any day of the week.

[antchuk]

Well, I agree with NickHouston that we honest players do not need hackers, that's for sure (ok, I can still beat those bastards anyway LOL). Since in my territory of this world in Scandinavia/Northern Europe, we meet a lot of scam from Russia etc. countries and lot's of hackers also. So, dedicated servers would be perfect match, I guess.

[Aggr0nn]

Have you played the beta? The mm was so fast and no lag ingame

[Duke]

im happy for no community hosted servers too.

There are little kid admins who kick when they lose.

Stupid rules

1 map rotation only.

I prefer the lobby and 3A hosted Dedicated Servers all day

[dathip]

Escrito originalmente por A Fat Chimp:

Escrito originalmente por NickHouston:

The BO3 beta used the same lobby system we've seen in all CoD games in MW2 and later games. What we need are community-run servers that private groups manage and moderate. THAT's what killed CoD on PC for many clans. The fact that we have to join hacker-infested unmoderated lobbies is a disgrace to PC gaming.

Personally, I'm glad they don't have community servers. Don't get me wrong - community servers can be great. Admins can enforce any rule they want, whether it's knife-only, no explosives, no rooftops, name your pick. This can make for interesting servers (for better or worse).

However, in my experience it does more harm than good later in a games life. If I try to find a TDM match in BF3 (North America), I'll have a fairly disappointing list of results:
http://i.imgur.com/ENWWd8l.png

I'll take a healthy map rotation over modified rulesets any day of the week.

Completely agree. I prefer map rotation. i HATE dedicated servers that use the same output such as "24/7 MW bog all DAY" or "one shot kill(hardcore TDM)" ITS very RARE to find a server that has 24/7 MAP rotation with ALL maps. Black Ops is the ONLY game that actually did good with dedicated servers. There are some servers that map rotate 24/7. It makes if fresher and less dull.

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All I'm reading is "I'm glad we don't have (insert option)."

What I meant was we should be able to have dedicated servers. NOT completely take your console lobby system away.

I personally prefer private servers. You can have fun mods like user-made maps, game modes, weapons, etc. without effecting your "official" online account.

It also helps to keep all of the d-bag hackers away from my games.

This is PC people. Not console. And as PC gamers, with our machines, we shouldn't HAVE to run with only one thing. PC gaming is about bringing control to the users to make a long-lasting, enjoyable experience.

Have you seen MW2, MW3, Ghosts, BO2, AW lately? NOBODY plays the game modes I like. There are a maximum of like 10k on the best of weekends across ALL of those titles.

CoD 4, BO, WaW are all VERY active. Why? Because PRIVATE SERVERS. The servers are upkept. They are moderated. They can be modded for even more game content. The lobby system of each game is basically forgotten about by the game devs when the new game comes out, a year after release.

WE DESERVE THE CHOICE. Not to be FORCED into the crappy console matchmaking system.

[Chew Ass and Kick Bubblegum]

Escrito originalmente por NickHouston:

WE DESERVE THE CHOICE. Not to be FORCED into the crappy console matchmaking system.

I want the choice to play all maps the game offers, and to use whatever weapons I want. And to not be banned by some random kid troll just because he feels like doing that (ever tried playing Tomahawk only in Black Ops 1? After some time, you become pretty good at it and people with normal guns don't stand a chance, that's when admins start banning you after a few double-triple kills).

♥♥♥♥ community controlled servers. It sucks balls. Humanity is too dumb and selfish to not abuse such privileges. Black Ops II's system is the one that simply works and I want that.

[Talmith]

it will take youre ping in consideration and you can be place in dedicated server wiches prevent migrating host, so if you get migrating host that mean you should restart you'Re session to try to get a dedicated server

[Simply Rikkid]

" WE WANT DEDICATED SERVERS."

Only if it's unranked like MW3, otherwise I can do without them in ranked after Black Ops 1.

[Dante]

Escrito originalmente por Emilio Estevez:

it will take youre ping in consideration and you can be place in dedicated server wiches prevent migrating host, so if you get migrating host that mean you should restart you'Re session to try to get a dedicated server

BO3 for PC has 100% dedicated servers. There are no hosts. It is only consoles that get the hybrid model. PC does not.

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Escrito originalmente por Scimitar101:

Escrito originalmente por NickHouston:

WE DESERVE THE CHOICE. Not to be FORCED into the crappy console matchmaking system.

I want the choice to play all maps the game offers, and to use whatever weapons I want. And to not be banned by some random kid troll just because he feels like doing that (ever tried playing Tomahawk only in Black Ops 1? After some time, you become pretty good at it and people with normal guns don't stand a chance, that's when admins start banning you after a few double-triple kills).

♥♥♥♥ community controlled servers. It sucks balls. Humanity is too dumb and selfish to not abuse such privileges. Black Ops II's system is the one that simply works and I want that.

In my solution we would have BOTH.

You don't have to play on our servers, and we don't have to play with your hacker-infested lobby.

Also, most clans that set up servers have rules that the clan finds fun. Like if they ban certain weapons, want to only use certain killstreaks, etc. The beauty of that is, if you don't like the server you can just leave!

I'd rather play consistently with people I know and a gametype I like than with whiney 5 year olds calling me a noob every 4 seconds and hackers galore.

With the lobby system, games die quick. With the server system, games live on.

Seriously, look at CoD4. It came out almost a decade ago and it's still going strong. Now, go ahead and look at MW2, BO2, MW3, Ghosts... those games are almost completely dead! And IW/Treyarch don't give a ♥♥♥♥ because they can pump out a new game the next year and all the fanboys will flock to it.

The server system is even found in games like Battlefield 3 and 4. Both made by the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ EA, both still very, very active due to dedicated community servers.

[A Fat Chimp]

Escrito originalmente por NickHouston:

Seriously, look at CoD4. It came out almost a decade ago and it's still going strong. Now, go ahead and look at MW2, BO2, MW3, Ghosts... those games are almost completely dead! And IW/Treyarch don't give a ♥♥♥♥ because they can pump out a new game the next year and all the fanboys will flock to it.

The server system is even found in games like Battlefield 3 and 4. Both made by the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ EA, both still very, very active due to dedicated community servers.

BF3 has ~10k players, and BO2 has ~6k players. I'm not sure I share your definition of a "dead" game.

Server browsers alone don't play a real role in a games lifespan.