Having problems with netcode/lag? Test your router for buffer bloat!

[THE KING ADROCK AKA JIGGAWATZ!!!]

I want to share an amazing fix that i have discovered for my problems with hit registration/netcode. Simply run the test located here:

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

You can even run it while playing, from the steam browser.

If you score less than "A" in the buffer bloat category, that means your router is suffering from buffer bloat,which means that your router's buffer is creating lag , because it's buffering more data than it can handle, and is making your game experience absolutely suck!

Fixing my buffer bloat from "F" to "A" has made a night and day difference for me! It feels like I am playing with significantly less lag and much better hit detection! Give it a try!


"Bufferbloat is the undesirable latency that comes from a router or other network equipment buffering too much data. It is a huge drag on Internet performance created, ironically, by previous attempts to make it work better. Eric Raymond wrote this one-sentence summary of the problem: "Bloated buffers lead to network-crippling latency spikes." You can read more about this problem at the main Bufferbloat site"

how to fix (if your router firmware supports it) :

in your router configuration page, under QoS, after you enable QoS , look for "queueing discipline" tab , which you can there select "FQ_Codel"

The Queue Discipline tab controls how packets are prioritized for sending and receipt.

My buffer bloat went from "F" to "A+" only after I enabled QoS with FQ_Codel queueing discipline and also changed my QoS uplink provisioning setting.

Disclaimer: Messing around in your router configuration page, is not for people who are unsure about what they are doing, you can really mess up your entire network. So beware.

[stuff]

Other than switching to an os firmware which uses codel (not an option for some routers), how would you mitigate bufferbloat?

[THE KING ADROCK AKA JIGGAWATZ!!!]

Originally posted by stuff:

Other than switching to an os firmware which uses codel (not an option for some routers), how would you mitigate bufferbloat?

not sure, you can read more about it here:

http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki

[THE KING ADROCK AKA JIGGAWATZ!!!]

Bumping my own thread , let me know if this helps anyone.

[Kusel]

how do i reduce bufferbload?

[THE KING ADROCK AKA JIGGAWATZ!!!]

how bad is your bufferbloat, according to that page, tested in steam browser, while playing?

the fix is usually using router firmwares like DDWRT, OpenWRT, or Tomato , that uses a QOS queueing method called FQ_Codel

[Kusel]

C

Using a AVM Fritzbox with original Firmware

full QOS Prio on my PC

[Truc]

B, A, A....Is it ok for me?

[THE KING ADROCK AKA JIGGAWATZ!!!]

Originally posted by 5StorM2:

B, A, A....Is it ok for me?

I wouldnt be happy unless my buffer bloat said "A" personally You should try to fix it. It means you are getting packets late while playing the game aka lag , because your router is acting slow.

[THE KING ADROCK AKA JIGGAWATZ!!!]

Originally posted by Kusel:

C

Using a AVM Fritzbox with original Firmware

full QOS Prio on my PC

are you using FQ_Codel with QoS?

[corruptreality]

Originally posted by THE KING ADROCK AKA JIGGAWATZ!!!:

I want to share an amazing fix that i have discovered for my problems with hit registration/netcode. Simply run the test located here:

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

You can even run it while playing, from the steam browser.

If you score less than "A" in the buffer bloat category, that means your router is suffering from buffer bloat,which means that your router's buffer is creating lag and making your game experience absolutely suck!

Fixing my buffer bloat from "F" to "A" has made a night and day difference for me! It feels like I am playing with significantly less lag and much better hit detection! Give it a try!


"Bufferbloat is the undesirable latency that comes from a router or other network equipment buffering too much data. It is a huge drag on Internet performance created, ironically, by previous attempts to make it work better. Eric Raymond wrote this one-sentence summary of the problem: "Bloated buffers lead to network-crippling latency spikes." You can read more about this problem at the main Bufferbloat site"

Dslreports users/myself have reported inconsistent results when it comes to bufferbloat. Like sometimes it will report compleltly different values if I run it back to back. exp of results -,B,C,A. So who really knows how good/bad it is for me. Speed test is always dead on though. Dslreports does have tons of great tools for testing your connection though.

Also if your ISP is apart of dslreports you can talk to tech support directly. Like if you have internet problems you can post on its Direct Support thread. And they can see what/if anything is wrong on its end. Obviously some ISPs offer way better/faster online support then others

Brighthouse 100/10 profile - 114/11.41
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/3664881

[THE KING ADROCK AKA JIGGAWATZ!!!]

Originally posted by adderall:

Originally posted by THE KING ADROCK AKA JIGGAWATZ!!!:

I want to share an amazing fix that i have discovered for my problems with hit registration/netcode. Simply run the test located here:

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

You can even run it while playing, from the steam browser.

If you score less than "A" in the buffer bloat category, that means your router is suffering from buffer bloat,which means that your router's buffer is creating lag and making your game experience absolutely suck!

Fixing my buffer bloat from "F" to "A" has made a night and day difference for me! It feels like I am playing with significantly less lag and much better hit detection! Give it a try!


"Bufferbloat is the undesirable latency that comes from a router or other network equipment buffering too much data. It is a huge drag on Internet performance created, ironically, by previous attempts to make it work better. Eric Raymond wrote this one-sentence summary of the problem: "Bloated buffers lead to network-crippling latency spikes." You can read more about this problem at the main Bufferbloat site"

Dslreports users/myself have reported inconsistent results when it comes to bufferbloat. Like sometimes it will report compleltly different values if I run it back to back. exp of results -,B,C,A. So who really knows how good/bad it is for me. Speed test is always dead on though. Dslreports does have tons of great tools for testing your connection though.

Also if your ISP is apart of dslreports you can talk to tech support directly. Like if you have internet problems you can post on its Direct Support thread. And they can see what/if anything is wrong on its end. Obviously some ISPs offer way better/faster online support then others

Brighthouse 100/10 profile - 114/11.41
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/3664881

oh really, so their bufferbloat test is not that accurate? I didn't know that. It really helped my BLOPS 3 experience, personally, like a ton of lag has been removed. Night and day difference from going from "F" to "A+" with DD-WRT QoS. And now I consistently score "A" or "A+" on their test.

[texasrattler]

OR maybe yall just have sh*t routers. Having to use some third party crap( which i believe is crap to begin with is ridiculous).
If any device needs 3rd party help to work, that device is useless and utter trash imo.

Also some ppl (probably a lot) of users have no idea how to setup their computers/routers properly.
QoC aka quality of service can make a difference if you have more than one device/computer going at the same time.

[THE KING ADROCK AKA JIGGAWATZ!!!]

Originally posted by texasrattler:

OR maybe yall just have sh*t routers. Having to use some third party crap( which i believe is crap to begin with is ridiculous).
If any device needs 3rd party help to work, that device is useless and utter trash imo.

Also some ppl (probably a lot) of users have no idea how to setup their computers/routers properly.
QoC aka quality of service can make a difference if you have more than one device/computer going at the same time.

what is the problem with using firmware like DDWRT or Tomato vs the router manufacturer's firmware? DD-WRT has some amazing features.

[texasrattler]

Originally posted by THE KING ADROCK AKA JIGGAWATZ!!!:

Originally posted by texasrattler:

OR maybe yall just have sh*t routers. Having to use some third party crap( which i believe is crap to begin with is ridiculous).
If any device needs 3rd party help to work, that device is useless and utter trash imo.

Also some ppl (probably a lot) of users have no idea how to setup their computers/routers properly.
QoC aka quality of service can make a difference if you have more than one device/computer going at the same time.

what is the problem with using firmware like DDWRT or Tomato vs the router manufacturer's firmware? DD-WRT has some amazing features.

Cause it's not needed, ever. If you need it, the router was crap to begin with.

[texasrattler]

They make routers that have native DDWRT to begin with, just use those. They have been around for years.
No one needs to use 3rd party for stuff. It's not needed and if you need it, the router is alrdy crap.