Der Eisendrache EE recommendations

[Robot]

So after the millionth time trying with only two successes, I'm trying to do this EE with someone.

All I'm asking is for you guys to recommend things to use etc. Maybe strategies.
I used head drama w/ lightning bow. Also maxed out krm.
He used plunger, wolf bow, aftertaste, brecci.
We used jugg, quick revive, stamin-up, double tap.

Anything we should've done differently except him having monkeys?

[Snowblind]

Perkaholic ;)

[Robot]

Originally posted by `Snowblind:

Perkaholic ;)

I've avoided that because you get it afterwards.

[MP5]

All you really need is a bow, Porter's X2 Ray Gun (for the keeper), Jug, Double Tap, Stamin-Up, Widow's Wine if possible, plunger, Danger Closest and monkeys.

[CynicalCereal]

Danger Closest

[8=====D]

Well your setup already sounds the best possible. Though the key to success is all about strategy and routine, rather than equipment, I've completed it on solo without monkeys. I assume the main problem is the boss fight, all the previous steps are rather simple. In co-op you need good cooperation. For example, run around the circle boss fight room in the same direction, and closely together so that the hordes of zombies and panzers don't run like headless chickens around the room chasing players in different directions. You must have all enemies behind you like a controllable horde of cattle. When the panzers and zombies spawn randomly in all directions, round them up first so that they are all nicely behind you, only after that start killing them (this applies to training in general too).

About equipment, aftertaste (or phoenix up for all players) and monkeys obviously are highly useful. In addition to your bow one needs some weapon to effectively kill the panzers and quickly recharge the gravity spikes by killing normal zombies: if you ask me brecci is the best option (+ blast furnace or dead wire to kill many zombies with minimal ammo). An LMG or drakon are ok in killing the panzer but way too slow to use as panic weapons if you suddenly get blocked by a zombie. I wouldn't recommend ray gun either because the splash damage kills you if you get surrounded. It's a noob weapon in zombies anyway in my opinion (considered to be great by all zombies beginners but is actually extremely overrated and dangerous to its user, not just splash damage but it also makes crawlers on later rounds).

[8=====D]

Originally posted by Robotman:

I used head drama w/ lightning bow. Also maxed out krm.

I think head drama doesn't work with bows since bows cannot headshot.

Originally posted by MP5:

All you really need is a bow, Porter's X2 Ray Gun (for the keeper), Jug, Double Tap, Stamin-Up, Widow's Wine if possible, plunger, Danger Closest and monkeys.

This is also true, ray gun might be useful with danger closet but since you'd make much more use of aftertaste or phoenix up, I wouldn't recommend the ray, as said in my above post.

[MP5]

Originally posted by 8=====D:

Originally posted by MP5:

All you really need is a bow, Porter's X2 Ray Gun (for the keeper), Jug, Double Tap, Stamin-Up, Widow's Wine if possible, plunger, Danger Closest and monkeys.

This is also true, ray gun might be useful with danger closet but since you'd make much more use of aftertaste or phoenix up, I wouldn't recommend the ray, as said in my above post.

Danger Closest is the best gum to use. Even without it the Ray Gun in this game has such little splash damage that you would need to shoot at your feet like 10 times to get downed. The Ray Gun is also the best weapon when it comes to taking down the keeper.

[Kingslayer Kyle]

At the start of the game activate a firesale gobblegum and get a haymaker/raygun, by the time you go into the boss fight you want doubletap/jugg/quick revive and a wonderfizz perk and the aftertaste gobblegum, for bows the best in order for boss fight is electric,fire,void and lastly wolf.

[Shiroe (cortana)]

after doing EE on DE about 15 times. i suggest if solo or only 2 players, use gaymaker packed and headdrama for taking out the panzer quicker since plunger is suicide most of the time.
and for boss bows do the most dmg to it, about 2.3x more than raygun, xm-53 etc.

[MP5]

Originally posted by Lone Runner(cortana):

after doing EE on DE about 15 times. i suggest if solo or only 2 players, use gaymaker packed and headdrama for taking out the panzer quicker since plunger is suicide most of the time.
and for boss bows do the most dmg to it, about 2.3x more than raygun, xm-53 etc.

You've done it 15 times and you don't know that Danger Closest is the best gum? I bet you've also never tried the Porter's X2 Ray Gun. ;) It *is* better than all of the bows.

[Shiroe (cortana)]

i tried them both and they are idd very bad( heck raygun packed or not are very bad in bo3 but it was the best in WaW and bo1)..
as i said. bows do the highest dmg of all weapons against boss. and danger closest dont help a ♥♥♥♥ against panzers if thats what u think, i tried it and still died from shock charges from the panzers and if thats not enough, those charges are so easy to dodge anyway so if u cant avoid them, yeah well go figure it out...

[8=====D]

Danger closest only helps you to avoid explosive damage, which is mostly self-inflicted in this game, and a professional player should know how to avoid damaging oneself in the first place. I guess your playstyle involves a lot of explosives and spamming the ray gun at close range if you're so obsessed with that gum.

[MP5]

You guys are kidding me, right? Danger Closest completely protects you from the panzer's explosives/shock charges and I probably don't need to tell you that there will be a lot of those in the boss fight.

With almost 500 hours I would have assumed you knew that...

[Shiroe (cortana)]

show a prof that danger closest works against shock charge. it dont!! i tried it 5 times.
Only time that gum is good if u are using XM-53 or raygun at melee range or up in u face while firing it.. but as i said earlier even if it should work, if u need that gum for panzers u sure does suck at it, as the shocks are so simple to avoid.

[Shiroe (cortana)]

i never die of shock charges, but i do like the flamethrower if there comes 3 panzers at same time along with like 40 zombies from all directions,