We aren't done figuring out the Zombies maps.

[WeaponsGradeHam]

"If you've come to the conclusion that you are done in DLC4 (Revelations), you are wrong."
- Jason Blundell

Haters need not apply.

I would like to preface this discussion by saying I haven't gotten the Shadows of Evil EE done yet as I have almost exclusively played Solo, and the only Easter Eggs that you can do Solo are the "Gateworm Easter Egg" Maps. (The Giant for Richtophen, Der Eisendrache for Dempsey, Zetsubou No Shima for Takeo, and Gorod Krovi for Nicholai.)

That said, I'm looking for some dedicated players to try and get these maps locked down. As I said above, I'll need help with getting the Easter Eggs from Shadows of Evil, Gorod Krovi, and Revelations, but once complete, I'm looking for some players to help scour ALL the maps looking for the items we need to break the cycle, as well as figure out other minor EEs, like the Chicken Tacical Weapon that was found in the gamefiles for Revelations.

Jason Blundell thinks we're incapable of figuring out the full potential of these maps. Let's show him how wrong he is.


PS: If anyone knows of any COD Zombies youtubers with viable information, feel free to share. I'm subscribed to COD Zombies HQ, Glitching Queen, MrDalekJD, and MrRoflWaffles, and I'm gradually absorbing all of their collected data. Unfortunately, a lot of them have migrated to IW Zombies, so I'm not leaning to heavily on them at the moment.

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you are gay

[MP5]

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

Alright, I'll start with your definition. 1: Ground for belief; 2: an indication or sign; 3: Conspicuous. All definitions for the word found in your own link. Just because you're incapable of doing research of your own, doesn't mean that there isn't research to be done.

I like how you conveniently left out the word "proof"

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

and yes, there's an achievement for completing the cycle, which is what you get when you complete Revelations for the first time, but there is also an achievement for BREAKING the cycle, which noone has gotten yet, in which is the implication that you need to start from the first map and make your way through the other 4 in order to reach Revelations and break the cycle. Because if that's not the case, it's not a cycle.

There are 86 achievements on all platforms and I have all of them but two; both of which are not related to anything you just said. Please show me proof for the existence of this achievement.

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

If YOU want to give me ANY evidence that there is NOTHING LEFT in the maps we have, and I can't disprove it, then I will be happy to admit my error. But I highly doubt you even bothered to build a counter-argument that wasn't based on trying to discredit my understanding of the word "evidence".

I already told you that you cannot prove something doesn't exist. How do you not understand that? Or what exactly is it that you expect me to do - should I break into Treyarch HQ, hold one of the programmers hostage and make them tell me if there is anything left to be found?

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

I'd like to also point out that you clearly haven't seen the Revelations Trailer, as that in itself should be plenty of evidence that there's more to be discovered.

So, if you're still absolutely convinced that there is nothing else to find, but you have no evidence to prove it, I kindly ask that you get out of my discussion and talk smack elsewhere. Please and thank you.

I have indeed seen it so the joke's on you. You keep saying you have "evidence" but you never provide proof for anything. Nothing but hot air.

[WeaponsGradeHam]

MP5 の投稿を引用：

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

Alright, I'll start with your definition. 1: Ground for belief; 2: an indication or sign; 3: Conspicuous. All definitions for the word found in your own link. Just because you're incapable of doing research of your own, doesn't mean that there isn't research to be done.

I like how you conveniently left out the word "proof"

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

and yes, there's an achievement for completing the cycle, which is what you get when you complete Revelations for the first time, but there is also an achievement for BREAKING the cycle, which noone has gotten yet, in which is the implication that you need to start from the first map and make your way through the other 4 in order to reach Revelations and break the cycle. Because if that's not the case, it's not a cycle.

There are 86 achievements on all platforms and I have all of them but two; both of which are not related to anything you just said. Please show me proof for the existence of this achievement.

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

If YOU want to give me ANY evidence that there is NOTHING LEFT in the maps we have, and I can't disprove it, then I will be happy to admit my error. But I highly doubt you even bothered to build a counter-argument that wasn't based on trying to discredit my understanding of the word "evidence".

I already told you that you cannot prove something doesn't exist. How do you not understand that? Or what exactly is it that you expect me to do - should I break into Treyarch HQ, hold one of the programmers hostage and make them tell me if there is anything left to be found?

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

I'd like to also point out that you clearly haven't seen the Revelations Trailer, as that in itself should be plenty of evidence that there's more to be discovered.

So, if you're still absolutely convinced that there is nothing else to find, but you have no evidence to prove it, I kindly ask that you get out of my discussion and talk smack elsewhere. Please and thank you.

I have indeed seen it so the joke's on you. You keep saying you have "evidence" but you never provide proof for anything. Nothing but hot air.

A) Watch the Revelations Teaser Trailer. In the Trailer, the O4 drink one of their blood vials. We didn't get to see that happen in the Revelations EE "Complete the Cycle".

B) The update to the Purple Margwa Heart in Shadows of Evil that prevents you from picking it up unless you've completed the Revelations EE, implying the need to carry through the other maps to find pieces that can't be acquired without having completed the Revelations EE

C) My point is that you're baselessly trying to shut down this discussion based solely on the fact that you don't feel that there's anything left to find. If you don't want to be a part of the conversation, you don't have to, but to walk in here and assume omniscience is egotistical and rude, don't you think?

D) Data miners can only get so far, especially when Treyarch knows that their updates are picked apart as soon as they hit PC. But on the other hand, they have found code and an image for a Chicken Tactical Grenade in Revelations, the steps of which refer to it as omlette, that takes up the same slot as the Spider Bait from ZnS and the Dragon Strike Controller in GK. No one has been able to figure it out.

E) The audio that can be found in Revelations from a Vase you interact with. Left and Right channels in the audio say different things. One side suggests that you follow that plan and help Dr Monty, but the other side says things that suggests assisting the Shadow Man.


How's that for evidence? It's even broken down into each piece for simplicity, since having included much of this information in my previous responses has clearly gone right over your head.

[WeaponsGradeHam]

Okay, so I went back to find my source about the Achievement, and I will admit my error; I misread the post. The Steam Achievement code for A Better Tomorrow is zm_genesis_super_ee. What I didn't realize is that's apparently the same achievement you get when you complete the Revelations EE for the first time. The achievement "For the Good of All" is strangely attained at the same time as "A Better Tomorrow". This I didn't know.


I'll also add a link below that includes a decrypted cipher, which practically states what I've been saying this whole time. That we need to go through the maps again to find things needed for the "Super EE"
https://www.reddit.com/r/CODZombies/comments/55buwe/dfs_2nd_cipher_solved_spoilers_obviously/#spoilers

[MP5]

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

I'll also add a link below that includes a decrypted cipher, which practically states what I've been saying this whole time. That we need to go through the maps again to find things needed for the "Super EE"
https://www.reddit.com/r/CODZombies/comments/55buwe/dfs_2nd_cipher_solved_spoilers_obviously/#spoilers

Completing all of the main easter eggs in Black Ops 3 is the "super easter egg" and the reward is an achievement, a calling card, the RK5 and the wisp in Revelations.

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there is no dlc 5 , people will say anything to get views for money lmao

[WeaponsGradeHam]

3rd-Reich の投稿を引用：

there is no dlc 5 , people will say anything to get views for money lmao

I've said it twice now; I'm not debating that. I don't believe in DLC 5. I wish it was a thing, but I'm fairly confident it's not.

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Btw Pokémon guy u is gay

[WeaponsGradeHam]

MP5 の投稿を引用：

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

I'll also add a link below that includes a decrypted cipher, which practically states what I've been saying this whole time. That we need to go through the maps again to find things needed for the "Super EE"
https://www.reddit.com/r/CODZombies/comments/55buwe/dfs_2nd_cipher_solved_spoilers_obviously/#spoilers

Completing all of the main easter eggs in Black Ops 3 is the "super easter egg" and the reward is an achievement, a calling card, the RK5 and the wisp in Revelations.

I hadn't considered it that way, but that still doesn't explain the "look... look hard" part, nor the other bits of info we don't know what to do with.

[WeaponsGradeHam]

MP5 の投稿を引用：

Completing all of the main easter eggs in Black Ops 3 is the "super easter egg" and the reward is an achievement, a calling card, the RK5 and the wisp in Revelations.

And the rest of my evidence?

[WeaponsGradeHam]

Oh! And even more evidence. The Powerup Quotes voiced by the Shadow Man and Dr Monty that we don't know how to activate.

Still waiting for any counter-arguments to my evidence. If there are none, I hope we can actually get the real discussion started.

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DLC 5 FAKE CUZ YOUR MOM GOT PENETRATED

[MP5]

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

Oh! And even more evidence. The Powerup Quotes voiced by the Shadow Man and Dr Monty that we don't know how to activate.

Still waiting for any counter-arguments to my evidence. If there are none, I hope we can actually get the real discussion started.

That's not evidence, not even close. In game development you come up with concepts and then have the voice actors record all lines you could possibly need (for example, the announcer on Origins has a quote for carpenter despite it not being available on the map). They had the voice actors read the power-up quotes for an idea they had at some point that didn't make it into the final product.

[WeaponsGradeHam]

MP5 の投稿を引用：

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

Oh! And even more evidence. The Powerup Quotes voiced by the Shadow Man and Dr Monty that we don't know how to activate.

Still waiting for any counter-arguments to my evidence. If there are none, I hope we can actually get the real discussion started.

That's not evidence, not even close. In game development you come up with concepts and then have the voice actors record all lines you could possibly need (for example, the announcer on Origins has a quote for carpenter despite it not being available on the map). They had the voice actors read the power-up quotes for an idea they had at some point that didn't make it into the final product.

First, Carpenter is a single power-up, and is generally included in the list of powerups they might impliment. It makes sense they'd get the actor to make all the powerups when they're hired, but later in development they realized majority of the zombie spawns don't involve repairable barriers, so they took Carpenter out.

These two sets of Audio quotes are entirely unused at the moment, each set of which required a separate voice actor to create them. Why do you think they'd create two whole sets of audio quotes from well known voice actors, only to drop the whole deal at the end?
What's your evidence for that theory?

Because I have concrete evidence that there are still things we don't know how to activate, which were encrypted to begin with, and you have nothing but vague speculation to hold your argument up. Those voice clips cost time and money, and it would be entirely inefficieent only to scrap in the end. What lead you to that conclusion? Or are you so adamantly opposed to the idea that there's stuff in the game that we don't know, that you refuse to accept that you could be wrong even with half a dozen pieces of evidence, WHICH IS PROOF that there are facets to the game we've yet to fully understand. I'm sorry, but I'm getting the impression that you're the one who doesn't properly understand what evidence is. I gave you 6 different reasons for why we don't know everything in the maps, but talking to you is like trying to talk to a Scientologist, or a believer that the world is flat. You believe you know the situation we're all in, only to actually believe in nonsense, and you must make as many people within earshot listen to and believe you because you're omniscience knows no bounds. There is no reason for them to include the audio clips in the gamefiles if they're not being used; it's a waste of bandwidth for hundreds if not thousands of players. It's illogical and simply makes no sense business-wise. Again, proper counter-arguments are welcome, but to take a piece of physical proof that we haven't figured out the maps, and say "Oh, that's left-over from when they were planning to do more.", is incredibly short-sighted and shows that your ego is getting in the way of your logic. "I can't be wrong; I'm never wrong!" It's sad, really.

[MP5]

I'm sorry but either you're trying to troll or you're not the brightest star in the sky.

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

These two sets of Audio quotes are entirely unused at the moment, each set of which required a separate voice actor to create them. Why do you think they'd create two whole sets of audio quotes from well known voice actors, only to drop the whole deal at the end?
What's your evidence for that theory?

Are you kidding me? You need to stop using the word "evidence" because you don't understand what it means. I told you why the additional VO files exist.

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

Because I have concrete evidence

You don't have evidence for anything other than your lack of evidence.

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

that there are still things we don't know how to activate, which were encrypted to begin with, and you have nothing but vague speculation to hold your argument up.

I'm starting to think I'm dealing with some sort of personality disorder here because that's exactly what I said to you.

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

Those voice clips cost time and money, and it would be entirely inefficieent only to scrap in the end. What lead you to that conclusion?

I evidently know more about game development than you. It's cheaper to record a bunch of stuff at once than flying the voice actors back out to the studio to record like 15 seconds of dialogue again. Every AAA development studio does that.

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

There is no reason for them to include the audio clips in the gamefiles if they're not being used; it's a waste of bandwidth for hundreds if not thousands of players. It's illogical and simply makes no sense business-wise.

Every AAA game under the sun comes with unused code and audio files.

#PokemonMaster の投稿を引用：

Again, proper counter-arguments are welcome

Really? Because I just gave you one and you completely disregarded it due to my "lack of evidence".

Further discussion is pointless if you're unable to understand even the simplest of arguments. Good luck with Revelations and let us know when you find bus route B on Tranzit or how to use the Wunderwaffe on Kino as well because according to your logic, there is "evidence" for all of them. I'm not wasting any more of my time with you. Good riddance.