Better Weapons than the starter?

[DiseasedProject]

I was wondering, if it's worth my time at all upgrading the M4 a few of my soldiers start out with, or should I wait in case I find a better base stat weapon? Or will I fare with the M4 just as well, if I upgrade it every time I can?

[9InchNail]

You get better secondaries really soon - I fount three purple P38 in Jupiter on the first four levels, lol. Also Desert Eagles are quite common. I would spare the scrap for better ones and don't waste them on the starter weapons (true also for the other weapon types). What I find a little strange is the fact, that I've cleaned the suburbs already and still have no better sniper than a green KAR98 without any attachment slot (the weapons vary in the amount of attachment slots, so be careful while scrapping the not used stuffed with weapons of the same type - hence you maybe scrap a weapon with slot and keep one without...) Shotguns, ARs and MPs are dropping really often - really rares ones too, but MGs and sniperrifles seem to have a bad turn on my loottable...

[str03mm3n]

You will get purple MG in B20 sewer and Sniper in F20 in the caves. Every top floor of the dungeons have some fixed loot.

[DiseasedProject]

I've been exploring the Jupiter for 12 levels now and got some nice weapons, such as a purple Patriot AR-15 (I think it was called), an AK-47, and a Modified Kar-whatchamanumber. It seems like this building is endless, am I correct?

[9InchNail]

Nope - they run until floor 20 - and I got a nice sniper at the end of the sewers :-)

[Mr B.]

So the weapons are not tiered - it's just rarer ones? I keep saving my scrap because it feels wasted on upgrading weapons I have, but of course it could be ages before I get a decent one.

[DiseasedProject]

I made it through all of the 20 levels in the Jupiter complex: if this is their idea of an epic final reward...I must say I'm not that impressed :)
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/436072631452354669/DD34BDF70C4A0B1996B457B65BA0F0DFFA9F3F64/

[Mr B.]

That pic actually shows what I said about it not ready to be out of EA - there's so many little things like that description that's not finished.

[Matty101]

I generally upgrade till it costs about 2000 scrap, leaves me plenty and doesn't invest you to heavily into the one gun, end game you tend to use it since the chances for better weapons is reduced.

When you find a gun and armour that you think you won't upgrade in a while(like my "taste the rainbow" rainbow skinned lmg's) or the xm28(i think it is...sniper rifle/grenade launcher) then you can go heavy with the upgrades but also note these guns at high levels tend not to increase so much per upgrade...maybe 0.5 to 3 extra damage per upgrade.

[DiseasedProject]

Well, after clearing out Jupiter I was swimming in scrap, so I decided it wouldn't matter to upgrade all of my current weapons to the max save for one green AK (trying to find a shotgun replacement for it). I'm one shotting Stalkers already and the game has literally become a cakewalk.

[redtieguy]

The rarity 5 m4 is the one that upgrading pays off. The initial stats suck, but I *have heard* it has the highest dps off any weapon when fully upgraded.

[Matty101]

yup i've upgraded that m4 to 320 dps and still have 2 or 3 upgrades to go on it

[str03mm3n]

It reaches 333. Not all that good.

[Don Juan DeMarco]

Originally posted by DiseasedProject:

I made it through all of the 20 levels in the Jupiter complex: if this is their idea of an epic final reward...I must say I'm not that impressed :)
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/436072631452354669/DD34BDF70C4A0B1996B457B65BA0F0DFFA9F3F64/

That rifle can be upgraded to 333 dmg btw :) easter egg. (oh yes, you are impressed)