Got any big MMO youtubers for this game yet? Solo player friendly?

[SwoleBenji]

Devs probably don't bother reading steam, as most companies don't. Does anyone know if this game has any major large MMO youtubers covering the game? I checked twitch and didn't see any heavy-hitters and searched around on youtube and didn't see any MMO enthusiasts of decent size maining the game.

I checked keymailer and didn't see any way to sign up to get a key and I don't have access to lurkit and as far as I know all the other sites that help connect youtubers to games have died off.

I clicked around to 2 digit view twitch streams and asked if the game was solo player friendly and every single one of 'em said it wasn't. What's your opinions?

Currently the games price tag is a big no-no for me and my audience. Checked out the content creator program page but it seemed more worded towards twitch streaming than youtube so I didn't really bother.

What do you guys say? Should I e-beg my audience to get me a key, or is there a site where larger content creators can go to get access? I've been looking for a new MMO to main.

I know the company that made this game is located in California. Are there heavily left-leaning by chance? I was going to main Corepunk but that company had wayyy too many leftists in power on their discord for me to support it, even when offered 5 digit amounts to make guides for them. I just don't like how I was treated there.

[Irot Noot]

If streaming is truly you job, then you have expenses and buying the games would be one of them. Im not sure why you would expect anyone else to buy the tools you need to do your job. Heck, IF streaming is really your job and you are doing things correctly, you could write off the cost of the game on your taxes. If, like, you know, you were doing it for a job.. for real..

[[KzU] Valgar]

New World has been developed by delivery workers, and died in less than 6 month due to their incapacity to listen their players on basic things.
This was by far the most unbalanced-PVP game, fully bugged and exploited.
Community tried to save them during months, but they were blind, now they are paying the price.

Pantheon is something else, possibly the dev team got really low funds to make a AAA graphic game, but I personally don't want this, i just want an old school MMO well-baked in his cooking pot.
PVE should be hardcore for solo players cause we are on an MMO, but not unbearable if the player is skilled and patient enough (rewarding the efforts). And most important , the class balance.
It's sure Pantheon, if respecting his promises, will keep the EQ players that were playing on Time Limited Progression Servers, at least, and on Project99.

[SwoleBenji]

I love all the non-youtubers parroting each other like they're on a high horse and think they know the industry. "Wahh business expense." No?

[Shazoo]

there's quite a few twitch streamers that are giving away keys if you are that desperate.

[SwoleBenji]

My time is valuable. Can't waste it in some single digit twitch stream.

[Sixty Percent]

Hopefully your 10 viewers aren't as annoying as you

[Wiliestrogue]

Swole, I wouldn't waste my time.
You are way to good for this game.

[kingonads]

Messaggio originale di Wiliestrogue:

Swole, I wouldn't waste my time.
You are way to good for this game.

Swol stop posting on your alt.

[SwoleBenji]

I don't have alts?

[Virsago2099]

Messaggio originale di SwoleBenji:

I love all the non-youtubers parroting each other like they're on a high horse and think they know the industry. "Wahh business expense." No?

So you have the industry figured out, but $40 is a deal breaker? I'm not a content creator, but I would assume if you're doing well enough on your channels to support yourself, a $40 investment to make potentially far more would be a no brainer. If you draw the line at buying your own games, then you're not making as much money as you could be. If you're a "big youtuber" who has the industry figured out I can't help but wonder why you would a) need a free key and b) come to the steam forums of all places to complain about not being recognized by the publisher of a game and getting a review copy. I'm not trying to ride a "high horse" here. I don't care if you play the game or not. I don't care if you make money or not. I just think if I were looking to make some money on game content, I would be getting in on the ground floor and pumping videos asap. Even if that means I have to make an initial investment.

[Chef]

Solo friendly?

What? I genuinely mean no hate or ill will but... >.>

BotW, TotK, Skyrim, GTAV, RDR2, Enshrouded, Fallout, Horizon, Spiderman, Cyberpunk, Witcher 3 and countless other single player, open world games that do that job far better than any mmo are that way --->

Not to mention themepark style mmos that cater to solo tastes like WoW and ff14 exist as well. So you even have options in the mmo space already.

Please stop coming to new mmos asking for solo centric efforts to be prioritized. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I'm genuinely baffled why anyone is looking for single player support in a "massively multi-player" genre.

Case in point, I absolutely hate sports game. Therefore I'd never buy madden and request the devs put in guns, rpg and lvling mechanics, or a deep plot.

My 2 cents at least. /shrug

[Veeshan]

Messaggio originale di Chef:

Solo friendly?

What? I genuinely mean no hate or ill will but... >.>

BotW, TotK, Skyrim, GTAV, RDR2, Enshrouded, Fallout, Horizon, Spiderman, Cyberpunk, Witcher 3 and countless other single player, open world games that do that job far better than any mmo are that way --->

Not to mention themepark style mmos that cater to solo tastes like WoW and ff14 exist as well. So you even have options in the mmo space already.

Please stop coming to new mmos asking for solo centric efforts to be prioritized. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I'm genuinely baffled why anyone is looking for single player support in a "massively multi-player" genre.

Absolutely... except if you like this RPG combat, instead of ARPG combat,* which is 99.9% of mmos out there.

I DO play Classic WoW, and it's great. It's also, quite clearly, an action game. I drink my coffee of a morning, sit down, and twiddle the controls until my energy calms down. It's great fun.

But sometimes I'm after RPG gameplay, instead. Only Embers Adrift, Monsters & Memories, or Pantheon will satisfy, then.

And then there's all the other reasons solo players like mmos, some of them pretty Justified I think. It's not like I never group etc.

And just to clarify for myself, I'm actually not advocating for solo content in pantheon. I'll certainly play it if it appears but I would not change this group Centric design, at least not until there are a few other offerings on the table.

* I'm aware here that using classic wow and Pantheon is actually reducing the distinction between RPG and arpg combat, here. Regretfully to my tastes, Pantheon has upped the APM a bit, and of course classic wow is as low as you can get with APM in MMOs.

[SwoleBenji]

If the game doesn't have solo friendly player activities, you alienate all the outcasts, all the friendless, all the people who aren't congruent with the current reddit-tier "groupthink."

Which is fine, if your game has systems that unite players in some way to play together organically rather than rely on them to try to reach out to others that they know are going to scorn and not work well with them. For me? My life is simply too far different (too far gone) to really connect with anyone that isn't exactly like me. So if people like me try to join a guild or group up, we just waste everyones time including our own since at the end of the day we'll just get gkicked over something dumb like liking pineapple on pizza or something. (Replace pineapple on pizza with something you'd see on 4chan.)

As far as the know it alls still clamoring about "muh investment" for youtube:
1) The reason you don't see youtubers invest in this game is because it's not profitable.
2) If someone can get thousands of eyes on a game, it's not our job to pay for it.
3) Youtubers don't make that much if they don't take sponsorships. Sure the big dawgs (Asmon, MoistCritikal, etc) make like 90k bucks for a 4 hour stream, but smaller channels are lucky to make 20k a year. It CAN be a lucrative job, but repeatedly buying into games that metrics show won't make a return isn't the way to go. This game has ONLY 279k monthly searches, with a google trend search that is literally flatlined when compared to games from 2017. AKA no "business savy" youtuber will bother with it unless there's an incentive pr they play it as a hobby to incorporate it into their current roster of games and don't care about how much $$$ they'll lose. As for me?I make less than a waiter does per hour and spent 19 hours a day. If I played this it'd be at a huge loss. Maybe to you 40 bucks is chump change but to people like me 40 bucks is 1-2 months of savings on a good month. I mean eggs are fricken' 10 bucks a carton now. I gotta prioritize. "Well get a job then" Not everyone can just get real jobs. I have no education, no capacity for education, and the only "jobs" i can get are fast food and retail but with all the crime simply following a shoplifter (or delivery order stealer, or someone that comes in, fills a gallon jug with Baja Blast and leaves) = get fired. "Well just don't do it" no, I have a sense of justice and will always do the right thing regardless if it gets me fired.

Want Asmon/Moist to try the game out? Their price tag is $10k bucks and they get about 70 million views a month. Want an actual MMO youtuber to play your game? The cost is clicking "generate steam key" and then a quick email. If the youtuber likes it, guess what? His entire audience of MMO enjoyers follows him. I've watched countless game companies toss money at giant creators and get nowhere but when they actually yoink the "top dawg" of a rival game and get them to convert their game thrives.

Every small creator wants to find the next "Fortnite" to entrench themselves into and rise to the top before the game pops off to all the normies. This game ain't it, but if it's something fun to do to take the hours away till the planet dies in calamities, that's more than enough for those of us who have already checked out of life and are just waiting to "go next."

[Voll-Damm]

Some weird kind of OP has proven to us here that it doesn't earn that $40 back. That's right :0)

[Bodhi]

I'm pretty sure Geonor broke this man.