Really a one off purchase for $39.99?

[Jaabaa]

At 01:26 in the Steam Video, screen filling and bold, it states:
SINGLE PURCHASE
NO PAY TO WIN
ONLY $39.99
If this were to change to a subscription model, especially considering this kind of marketing, would I be entitled to a refund?

[Rolien]

Actually a good question because in the video it does say that. However if you read the Early access things it states that they may change the model to a sub. They did say that that will be announced during Early Access.

I suppose what they could do is offer a subscription with "perks" and depending on what those "Perks" are claim they're not pay to win.

[The Druid]

Right now, and for the next 2 years at least, until it gets out from EA and goes to official release, yes, it's been confirmed to be a single purchase of $ 39.99. And it's no pay to win of course as there are no microtransactions of any sort, not even scheduled for the future (especially being an old school style mmorpg it wouldn't make much sense)
What will happen after 1.0 gets released is yet to be decided but this doesn't mean it's misleading advertising as it's been clearly stated already that there are no decisions taken concerning a subscription model yet. It's quite likely going to happen in my opinion, as every indie team would need constant funds to sustain the development of an mmorpg. It's pretty logical I guess.
But in 2 years obviously anything can happen and change. You have to know this before making a purchase.
So, I guess no, you won't be entitled for a refund once you buy the game and play for longer than 2 hours or just keep the game in your account for longer than 2 weeks as per Steam policy of any other game.

[benk]

your paying for a game for two years of enjoyment then gona have to pay a sub and your asking if it can be refunded no simple answer is no

[Tanist]

Traditionally a game like this would have been developed to a beta stage, then released in open beta for testing for free until release where it would follow a Purchase of the game (with 30 days) and then a sub after, as well as later expansions being purchased as they come out.

Modern day things have changed with EA (good or bad), and so the model above is changed a bit.

Game is in alpha state, you buy it (because that is how EA is) and you play it while it is being developed for the next 2 years (that is what I have seen people throw around) to which the game will then "release" and you will begin paying a sub (if that is the payment model they end up choosing, it could change).

If you are familiar with EA, then you know the risks of EA and the fact that it is essentially "testing" the game as you play unfinished, with bugs, lacking features, etc....

The game though is an MMO and will follow that format eventually and settle on its chosen pay model. You will get to play for free up until that point.

Again, EA policy, if you don't know if you will like the released version of the game, that will be your choice, but I assume the "return policy" is the same for any game (ie 2 hours).

[CoolTomato]

Steam is really good about siding with the customer. If VR blocks your access to the game by later adding a subscription, then it shouldn’t be an issue to get a refund. VR hasn’t been clear on their monetization model.

It doesn’t look favorable for VR, when they admit here that they don’t know the plan.

Game should’ve just launched in EA with a sub fee anyways. Buy the base game and get like 30 days free or something. I don’t know how their going to fund their operating expenses, while continuing to develop new content.

[Urban Blackbear]

I spent about a tank of gas on this game so far and have gotten my mileage out of it and expect to get even more.

[Jaabaa]

What I am getting at, their marketing makes no mention of:
1) That the purchase is "only" for EA access.
2) And if that is the case, how long EA is expected to be.
As I said, the full screen caps line "SINGLE PURCHASE" doesn't leave a lot to interpretation, and if there is something else in the "fine print" that states "don't believe what we say, we can change our mind at any time", then it doesn't exactly exude trust in the publisher/developer, does it?

[[ATS] Mercnet]

Everyone wants to play an mmo until its time for the servers to be paid for.

[Jaabaa]

Then the developers shouldn't state "SINGLE PURCHASE"

[DiceWrangler]

How many threads of this exact same topic do we need?

[[ATS] Mercnet]

Originally posted by Jaabaa:

Then the developers shouldn't state "SINGLE PURCHASE"

It is a single purchase for EA. They stated a release model maybe be a subscription based. Since it is not a subscription... do you see where this is going? The store page reflects CURRENT state of affairs. If you do not like that idea, refund it now, do not play and want for the game to be released and the decision to be finalized on how they plan to monetize the future of the game.

Originally posted by DiceWrangler:

How many threads of this exact same topic do we need?

The tears are delicious though.

[Veeshan]

That wouldn't make sense. The $40 is for early access. Once the game releases, THAT is what the sub model is for. So you got what you paid for.

[Rajin_Cajun]

All i know is i been burnt time after time with EA titles. Say 1 thing then do another because of some " We reserve the right to do w/e" into the EA fine print. Way i see it, i waited this long for the game to launch. Whats another 2 years. I'm sick of having to bear all the risk of a game purchase. These guys made sure they left numerous open doors they can navigate the game through in EA.

[Ranarius]

Waiting is a great solution for many people.

[Rhaane]

Let say you paid 40$ and barely played it, didn't care for it and wasn't interested. At that point you likely wouldn't care if there was a or wasn't a sub fee as you have moved on.

Lets say you paid 40$ and really liked the game and played a ton during EA. I would hope you would be on board with a sub fee if that was the direction it went. Or if not.. hey you had fun for your money and now its time to head on down the road to the next thing.

Either way the EA situation should and has no bearing on what happens after EA ends. They stated 1-2 years. I wouldn't hold my breath but that is what has been said.