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Luckycharms Feb 9 @ 9:04am
GG nighttime
Well I'm done wasting half my game time sitting waiting for the night to end. I'm gunna play something else that doesn't ♥♥♥♥ over half my gaming time. Hopefully they address this soon.
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Originally posted by Virsago2099:
Originally posted by Veeshan:
I agree that this "gatekeeping" is a turnoff for most. That is an unfortunate fact, that when attacked most people will defend.
Gatekeeping is far more harmful to a game, than someone offering criticism about a particular game mechanic. And I find your use of the word "attacked" in this context completely silly. He didn't attack you, he said he didn't like the new level of darkness in the game. Someone criticizing a game you like is not an attack. Games need feedback, especially in a testing phase. It's 100% ok for you to say you like the new level of darkness and engage with him on the topic, but maybe try not to take it like some kind of personal attack.

Also, telling people to "Go play Fortnite" is not a good way to support the game you like. It's a niche game, it doesn't need the community behind it running off new comers just cause they have opinions on something.
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Veeshan Feb 9 @ 12:03pm 
Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Originally posted by B.M:
FSCKIN CASUAL.
sure coming from the anime avtar playing wall paper engine who doesnt even own the game lol how did you even end up on this discussion board.
Are there hardcore anime games? I'm sure some play Fortnite pretty seriously but like our kind of hardcore? There's gotta be some obscure Korean phenomenon, surely.
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gray old man Feb 9 @ 12:50pm 
Originally posted by B.M:
FSCKIN CASUAL.
This is the kind of playerbase that really helps an mmo thrive.

Originally posted by B.M:
OP sounds like you need an MMORPG that holds your hand. This isn't for you. You want the modern mmorpgs for casuals.
On the other hand, perhaps the OP wants to play a video game that utilizes one of the primary features of a computer: the monitor.
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Levi Feb 9 @ 1:21pm 
When you make a video game for everyone you make a video game for no-one.
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Mista Dobalina Feb 9 @ 1:30pm 
haven't had a problem doing what I usually do at night.
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Tanist Feb 9 @ 2:00pm 
Originally posted by gray old man:
Originally posted by B.M:
FSCKIN CASUAL.
This is the kind of playerbase that really helps an mmo thrive.

Originally posted by B.M:
OP sounds like you need an MMORPG that holds your hand. This isn't for you. You want the modern mmorpgs for casuals.
On the other hand, perhaps the OP wants to play a video game that utilizes one of the primary features of a computer: the monitor.

I don't have any problems moving around at night, so I am unsure what the problem is.

Granted, you have to be more careful, know your surroundings, and understand the risks.

Seems like the OP does not want this type of play, which is fine, but it is a form of play they choose to avoid because.... they don't want to take the risk. Others will and do and are rewarded for this learning and adventure.

Looks like the mechanic is working as intended wouldn't you think?
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thanoskulo Feb 9 @ 2:24pm 
You guys defend the dark but its actually broken
Not only did it became a lot more dark with the unity 6 the tools to deal with it are not ingame yet
We are supposed to have racial visions and various light sources that are way more powerfull than the torches we currently have (or is it matches lol) but they are not ingame yet
So we have one mechanic getting more "hardcore" but we do not have the means to counter it as we will have some time in the future
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Tanist Feb 9 @ 2:28pm 
Originally posted by thanoskulo:
You guys defend the dark but its actually broken
Not only did it became a lot more dark with the unity 6 the tools to deal with it are not ingame yet
We are supposed to have racial visions and various light sources that are way more powerfull than the torches we currently have (or is it matches lol) but they are not ingame yet
So we have one mechanic getting more "hardcore" but we do not have the means to counter it as we will have some time in the future

Which is why the complaints are odd though. As it is now, the game is still pretty easy to get around, and yet there will be more tools implemented to make it easier in the future.

So I don't see the problem here?
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Mordicai052 Feb 9 @ 2:36pm 
Originally posted by B.M:
OP sounds like you need an MMORPG that holds your hand. This isn't for you. You want the modern mmorpgs for casuals.

This attitude will do more damage to this game and its chances than all the "casuals" on earth. VR has even said that lighting is going to be a bit of an issue for now with the Unity 6 change. Don't need to white knight so hard when they have said its something they are working on.

The game is in EA because it was close to broke. New players should be welcomed and helped, not told off.
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Seath Feb 9 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by Mordicai052:
Originally posted by B.M:
OP sounds like you need an MMORPG that holds your hand. This isn't for you. You want the modern mmorpgs for casuals.

This attitude will do more damage to this game and its chances than all the "casuals" on earth. VR has even said that lighting is going to be a bit of an issue for now with the Unity 6 change. Don't need to white knight so hard when they have said its something they are working on.

The game is in EA because it was close to broke. New players should be welcomed and helped, not told off.

Its why I refunded this game. You get attacked if you have a complaint or opinion. If you argue back they go and say you are trolling to a GM and try to ban you.
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Luckycharms Feb 9 @ 2:54pm 
I just want to say to everyone that I am not new to this game nor this genre, I have over 300 hours in this game. I like this game, I hate the night in it. I have 2 lvl 19 characters and 2 lvl 12 ones. I understand the game and its mechanics. It doesn't change the fact that night at least for me and others is totally unplayable. Maybe your lucky and your set up works better at night and you can see things. I cannot. So stop acting like nothing is wrong when there is something wrong. Or at least tell us how you manage to see at night when the rest of us cannot. Or is that to casual for all of you, or should I go back to fortnite?

Your constant attacks are a sad form of gate keeping that is a massive turn off to most.
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Flüüüümpel Feb 9 @ 3:19pm 
While I agree with you that you can criticize the decision to include this game mechanic in the game at any time. But you have to admit that your "Hopefully they address this soon." gives the feeling that you would claim it HAS to change and you simply completely fail to realize that there are just as many players who want exactly this mechanic. So you do exactly the same thing as these so-called "gatekeepers" and refuse to consider that there are people who might enjoy something even if you might not like it.
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Ham Baga Feb 9 @ 4:18pm 
The night is dark and full of terrors
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Veeshan Feb 9 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by Luckycharms:
It doesn't change the fact that night at least for me and others is totally unplayable. Maybe your lucky and your set up works better at night and you can see things. I cannot. So stop acting like nothing is wrong when there is something wrong. Or at least tell us how you manage to see at night when the rest of us cannot. Or is that to casual for all of you, or should I go back to fortnite?

Your constant attacks are a sad form of gate keeping that is a massive turn off to most.

That's the thing, we cannot see at night, either. My technique to get around that was to approach at such an angle that the enemy was highlighted by the (very) slight moonlight through the tree leaves. So sometimes I could see a fluttering of wings above ground level, or what I remembered ground level to be. I was also recalling exactly how many enemies there were per square area so I knew where to look.

That is how I "see" at night.

As for whether that is broken, I neither know nor care. The mechanic was fun for me in other games, and is fun here as well.

I agree that this "gatekeeping" is a turnoff for most. That is an unfortunate fact, that when attacked most people will defend.

I offer no apology for that defense, and frankly I think you should have not only expected it but should have tiptoed around it so as not bring it forth.

I have zero problem employing that tactic when I step into the domain of others, making outrageous demands.
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forcecomdr Feb 9 @ 4:45pm 
God forbid that different times of day have different aspects of gameplay. Feel free to sit in town till you can see everything and there's no surprises to sloppy gameplay.

Or you can accept that certain times are more dangerous than others, and adjust accordingly.
... but why would we do that, i want everything easy all the time!
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thanoskulo Feb 9 @ 8:02pm 
As I said in previous post but perhaps wordied poorly night is not intended (by the devs) to be this dark
As per Joppa there are torches,lanterns,light gems, glowing weapons and even the possibility
of wandering wisps were that makes sense to light up the area
That is on top of racial vision types that everyone but poor humans will get
They just implemented half the mechanic without the planned tools to deal with it
All info I have is on Joppa s various streams for those who dont know he is the lead dev
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