PVP server is refreshing

[Hades]

Im playing on east pvp server and giving this game another try... im just level 5 rogue so far, but having "a blast", well kind of.
I lost 3 hours of farming by attacking a player that I thought was AFK... it was a big mistake aha... although the fight was fun and seemed fair and balanced (my oponent was same level as me but better / more experienced player obviously).
On the downside there seems to be 2 big guilds "cuckholding" the starter area and average population seems not that high which is a pitty somehow.
Also combats is laggy as hell (as EU player) and "clumsy", quite far away from what you would expect for today standards for such game.
To me PVP server of Pantheon looks like a "dream Wow classic" out of some alternate reality somehow... although this is rather a personal opinion... and I havent been much far away from hafeling starter area yet

[Tyvolus]

enjoy

[glythe]

Playing a rogue in a pvp game where there isn't a "detect invisible" spell? Wow you are completely unoriginal.

[Tyvolus]

not sure why they added PvP servers now...the playerbase is declining, the game is years away from completion, it isnt meant for PvP, and a playerbase that doesnt even seem to want it. A PvP server might have been fine when the game is finished in 2 or 20 years from now.

[spectre.smg - han/ham]

Originally posted by Tyvolus:

not sure why they added PvP servers now...the playerbase is declining, the game is years away from completion, it isnt meant for PvP, and a playerbase that doesnt even seem to want it. A PvP server might have been fine when the game is finished in 2 or 20 years from now.

I think it was clear they were under the impression that it would stimulate sales and player growth at least somewhat. Whoops!

[Napoleon Wilson]

you mean big guilds of people are getting together to grief players on a pvp server,....I am shocked.

[Hades]

Originally posted by Tyvolus:

not sure why they added PvP servers now...the playerbase is declining, the game is years away from completion, it isnt meant for PvP, and a playerbase that doesnt even seem to want it. A PvP server might have been fine when the game is finished in 2 or 20 years from now.

I think you are unfair with Pantheon overall.

Somehow I have had more fun playing 3 hours of Pantheon on Pvp server that I ever had on Ashes of Creation so far with my stupid mid level archer... lol.

Pantheon Pvp settings are quite "simple and straightforward" and personally i like it. You need to pay real attention to what you do, PVE is challenging/mobs are hard enough, overall the "game loop" is very pleasing and immersive on PvP server while it felt dull and boring on PVE server.

I feel the grinding incentive too, which is a pleasant thing.

Would this game add some more cool in game RPG features and original skills, mounts, maybe a world map (as skill / in game item for example), focus on Pvp (sorry PVE people... I dont like you... aha) and become f2p with a "cool and well thought cash shop" , it could be a blast maybe.

Im not even joking... but this is very unlikely I believe.

[befreewhereyouare]

You've convinced me! I'm gonna make a PvP character! 😲😲

Do we know which classes prove well so far? I'm thinking PAL. ❤️

[Hades]

Originally posted by befreewhereyouare:

You've convinced me! I'm gonna make a PvP character! 😲😲

Do we know which classes prove well so far? I'm thinking PAL. ❤️

I just played rogue because I like to play rogues in every MMO... but the best class are said to be mage and dire lord and maybe enchanter.. unsure, rogue is good choice too.

[befreewhereyouare]

YOOOOO! PvP 👏 IS 👏 AWESOME 👏

My summoner is level 7 and has managed to avoid any confrontation thus far. ❤️❤️❤️

When killed, do you lose your gear or just money/inventory? 😲

[Tyvolus]

Originally posted by Hades:

Originally posted by Tyvolus:

not sure why they added PvP servers now...the playerbase is declining, the game is years away from completion, it isnt meant for PvP, and a playerbase that doesnt even seem to want it. A PvP server might have been fine when the game is finished in 2 or 20 years from now.

I think you are unfair with Pantheon overall.

Somehow I have had more fun playing 3 hours of Pantheon on Pvp server that I ever had on Ashes of Creation so far with my stupid mid level archer... lol.

Pantheon Pvp settings are quite "simple and straightforward" and personally i like it. You need to pay real attention to what you do, PVE is challenging/mobs are hard enough, overall the "game loop" is very pleasing and immersive on PvP server while it felt dull and boring on PVE server.

I feel the grinding incentive too, which is a pleasant thing.

Would this game add some more cool in game RPG features and original skills, mounts, maybe a world map (as skill / in game item for example), focus on Pvp (sorry PVE people... I dont like you... aha) and become f2p with a "cool and well thought cash shop" , it could be a blast maybe.

Im not even joking... but this is very unlikely I believe.

I have played alot of PvP in MMO's. EverQuest (tallon zek server), Lineage 2, Warhammer, WoW. Archeage, BDO...just off the top of my head. It takes alot of time and energy to make it work. Pantheon is an unfinished game, and it is a PvE game....the devs dont have the time (or funding) to finish the game, yet are going to have the time to address PvP? To me, it seems PvP is just a tacked on extra....another unfinished addition to the game...that may never be finished.

this game has been in development a looong time. Its been in EA for 4 months with no big content drops as of yet. just not sure why the rush for a pvp server.

[befreewhereyouare]

Originally posted by Tyvolus:

PvP is just a tacked on extra....another unfinished addition to the game

What are some of the issues you're encountering with PvP that have you stating it's in such an unfinished state? Could you highlight the most annoying things? 😲 Preciate you! ❤️❤️❤️

[Tyvolus]

Originally posted by befreewhereyouare:

Originally posted by Tyvolus:

PvP is just a tacked on extra....another unfinished addition to the game

What are some of the issues you're encountering with PvP that have you stating it's in such an unfinished state? Could you highlight the most annoying things? 😲 Preciate you! ❤️❤️❤️

*Crafting - very risky unless you got a group watching your back.
*No safe zones, for newbs or otherwise.
*Guild camping newbs, and bank camping.
*Class imbalance...one example, you cant detect invis. second example Wizards are OP.

[befreewhereyouare]

Originally posted by Tyvolus:

*Crafting - very risky unless you got a group watching your back.
*No safe zones, for newbs or otherwise.
*Guild camping newbs, and bank camping.
*Class imbalance...one example, you cant detect invis. second example Wizards are OP.

*Ugh, I cannot even imagine trying to craft! I get you! 🔊

*It was super jarring for me, but I think being invulnerable for five levels helps a lot. I think one could easily finish all the starting quests before reaching level 5. 👏 You can do lots of harvesting and putting stuff in the bank (I'm wishing I did all this now that I'm thinking of it, lmao) and studying the lay of the land. 🙏

*SO annoying! I think we just gotta have peeps who are dedicated to lurk at banks to fight them off. IK once I'm level 25-30, I will be spending some time on city watch.

*What abt Wizards makes them so OP? Invis? P.S. what is happening when players just disappear into black clouds? Is that a teleportation or invis spell? 🤔🤔🤔

[glythe]

So why would you not just have a friend run around everywhere as a level 4.8? You cast invis on them and they carry all the "loot".

[Rebel]

There's a difference between PVP... and griefing that targets the newest, weakest, most vulnerable players and exterminates them. Best of luck with your implementation. Not even EQ hardcore PVP servers allowed griefing in the cities. You had to have high faction and then you'd face an entire faction.