How to drift?

[Leander.quest]

I don't know how to drift. Good players drift like on rails but I can't. Could somebody explain how it is done with an XBOX360 controller?

Imagine, you are driving on a straight with a left turn coming up. How do you use the left stick, the gas, the brake, the handbrake?

[Genosse Diqque]

the scandinavian flick is your friend.

[grieverr]

You can use scandinavian flick (momentum) and/or e-brake. Point the wheels towards the turn, pull the e-brake let the rear and come out, keep the revs up/tires spinning and control the drift around the corner.

[Arknor]

drift into the corner with throttle off then use the accelerator to power out.
if you do it right you pretty much steer with the throttle.

Colin mcrae has a good rally lesson video on youtube explaining the various techniques

[Arya]

You need to identify where to drift. If you're on Tarmac and try to get sideways, all you'll achieve is losing a bunch of time and damaging your tyres. I typically only drift in 4WD cars, and only around radius 3 and tighter corners.

[{DDB} Ghostface and chill]

Originally posted by Vindekar:

You need to identify where to drift. If you're on Tarmac and try to get sideways, all you'll achieve is losing a bunch of time and damaging your tyres. I typically only drift in 4WD cars, and only around radius 3 and tighter corners.

you can drift on tarmac lol. Here is me doing exactly that:

http://i.giphy.com/3oEduNZhqF7MRd4FAk.gif

just hit the handbrake as you come into the turn and floor it as you downshift. The revs have to stay high to get the wheels spinning. you dont need much handbrake, just a quick tap.

[{DDB} Ghostface and chill]

Originally posted by Ivysaur:

@Ghostface I guess clutch + shifter, right? I don't see how you can have high rev when using senquetieel or only shifter.

nope jsut using sequential. The key is to get high revs in your current gear before you downshift. I usually am in 3rd going down to 2nd or 2nd going into 1st. So make sure you are near the limiter as you downshift. try it with the Puegeot as the 480 bhp makes it easiest. Put a 40:60(or 50:50 but you may spin out) bias on the center differential and also take -1.5 degrees camber in the rear and -1.0 degree in the front and make sure you have no positive toe angle in the front. Also make your final drive <4.0 on the gearbox. I personally prefer to lower the car all the way down -.8 in the front and -.6 in the rear to give the car a natural forward tilt. This exaggerates oversteer when entering the turn and braking. They try to sneak some pretty weak setups in on you for the defaults (0:100 drivetrain bias, 4.5 final drive)

[{DDB} Ghostface and chill]

Originally posted by Ivysaur:

Lets give it a try. I love to watch rally, etc. but I dont know a lot about cars, etc. Thanks to Dirt Rally I master Left-foodbraking, and now trying to drift and heel-toe stuff.

heel-toe is cool but also outdated! most modern rally cars use dog box transmissions which only require clutch for launching.

[{DDB} Ghostface and chill]

Originally posted by Ivysaur:

Ah oke. Didn't know that. Saw some nice videos of people using heel-toe etc. I am trying to drift. Its going ok. needs to practice. Thank you a lot!

haha np! good luck :)

[Leander.quest]

Thanks. I use automatic shifting because I don't play the game that much. Is drifting possible despite this?

[Simon said EAT DUST PLAYER_1 !]

IRL drifting with traditional automatics was impossible.
in-game? I would not know. "Serious" racing games demand you to control the gears yourself - as does performance-driving in real life.

you want to chose the engine's operating range to be either within the "power-band" or deliberately use a higher gear as to use lower revs. That is one essential part of driving technique: knowing / learning about your car's engine characteristics and gearing. It takes skill to pull off advanced maneuvers. That is what - ultimately - simulation-racing-games are all about: to emulate the environment and copy the driving-skills involved as acurately as possible.

Sadly there still is work to do for Codemasters to get DirtRally in-shape to call it a truthfull simulation. So any "skills" you now master will eventually need to be re-learned when the physics and control-models get their revisions in.

[{DDB} Ghostface and chill]

Originally posted by Leander_AT:

Thanks. I use automatic shifting because I don't play the game that much. Is drifting possible despite this?

it is possible to slide on gravel with the automatic transmission but there is no way you will be able to on tarmac. Learn to use manual if you want to blow tire smoke.

[Llew]

Originally posted by And The Ghostface Killah:

Originally posted by Ivysaur:

Lets give it a try. I love to watch rally, etc. but I dont know a lot about cars, etc. Thanks to Dirt Rally I master Left-foodbraking, and now trying to drift and heel-toe stuff.

heel-toe is cool but also outdated! most modern rally cars use dog box transmissions which only require clutch for launching.

Lol and heel and toe is relevant to launch control how? Heel and toe is technique used when down shifting to keep the engine in the power band.

[Arya]

It's not. I'm used to using a Line-Locker(Tarmac launch system) but the Handbrake seems to do the same job alright.

[Barraka Frite]

Originally posted by And The Ghostface Killah:

Originally posted by Leander_AT:

Thanks. I use automatic shifting because I don't play the game that much. Is drifting possible despite this?

it is possible to slide on gravel with the automatic transmission but there is no way you will be able to on tarmac. Learn to use manual if you want to blow tire smoke.

Is it efficient though ? I mean from your gif, it seems you lose some time at the end of the drift.

[Arya]

Drifting on Tarmac is a bad idea. It's very inefficient, damages your tyres, and can cost upwards of ten seconds across a long stage.

Tarmac isn't about bravado or aggression: what makes the difference between first and last is precision and consistency. The most efficient way to corner on tarmac(and this applies to ANY wheeled vehicle) is a wide line starting from the far outside shoulder, cutting the clipping point at the apex and then ending at the far outside shoulder on exit.

Brake early: it doesn't matter how much speed you lose on Entry, a perfect Apex is more important. The better your Apex, the higher your Exit speed. Exit speed is crucial because it continues to benefit all along the next straight.