This sums up physics and realism unfortunately:( 0-60 run

[Madhun67]

Try any 4wd in gravel and see how long it takes you to reach 60 mph.Most should do it in 3-4 i think or even less.I swear it takes me twice or 3 times that ,with full acceleration.
Uphill, forget it.Corners too,no power.
I hope this at least gets fixed if not weight and momentum.
I want to love it as a SIM and not an arcade racer.I love the grapchics and variety ,tracks etc.

[Shredder]

you think 0-60 mph on gravel in 3-4 seconds is realistic? lmao
Take your parents car out tonight and go really fast on a dirt road. Your name will be in the obituary tomorrow kid.

[Madhun67]

^ Shrimp, next time try to be not so insulting and go back to fishing or whatever.Read up on WRC cars while youre at it ,lmao

[sgspenceley]

The VW WRC 2014 does 0-60 mph in 3.8 s on tarmac
Subaru 2010 WRC does 0-60 4.2 s on tarmac


Back in the day of group B when cars had over 600BHP
The Lancia S4 is rumoured to do 0-60 in 2.9 s on gravel
Lancia Stratos was 3.1 seconds on tarmac
Sport quattro S1 was 3.1 seconds on tarmac


Back to the 60's classic
Mini Cooper S, 1967 was 13 seconds!!!

My guess a modern 4 WD WRC car today will be below 5.5 seconds on gravel.

[Madhun67]

yeah tell that to Jumbo now :)

[Katten]

Cow, do you have all the assists off? I think some of the stability controls (or whatever they're called) will use the brakes to try and stabilize the car, hence not getting power down.

[DriftMachine]

When the car bogs down try dumping the clutch. In real life it works. Its great for u turns. In the game it seems to have a simular effect. All in the sudden that slug starts to move, when you rev and dump. :)

[Madhun67]

Hey thank you guys for replying,
yeah i have all assists off as im used to Assetto Corsa and RBR.It just seems power is lacking on for example Mini and Delta S4

[Lopez0101]

Keep in mind that the Mini has like 100ish BHP, so that's not at the wheels and I imagine the technology in the 60's didn't allow for low drive line losses.

[Madhun67]

i think he is thinkng Mini WRC

[Hadji]

Originally posted by my cow is cute:

Try any 4wd in gravel and see how long it takes you to reach 60 mph.Most should do it in 3-4 i think or even less.I swear it takes me twice or 3 times that ,with full acceleration.
Uphill, forget it.Corners too,no power.
I hope this at least gets fixed if not weight and momentum.
I want to love it as a SIM and not an arcade racer.I love the grapchics and variety ,tracks etc.

If it takes you 12 seconds to reach 60mph you are obviously doing something wrong. I am no expert on DiRT Rally but I have tried some of the Group B 4WD cars and it does NOT take 10+ seconds to reach 100 km/h (60 mph is about 96 km/h). Depending on how well I shift it takes about 6 seconds on normal gravel and 8 seconds in lose/heavy gravel. And I am using a 360-controller. I'm sure someone with proper equipment can do much better.

[Phoenix]

Once again, this is going back to what I've been saying. There's TOO MUCH GRIP from the road surface, whether gravel or not. This translates into high drag as well. Yes, I've noticed the cars are much, MUCH slower than their real world counter parts should be in acceleration. Try the group A Subaru for example. It's hilariously slow, yet it's supposed to have 300bhp. That kind of power with 2600lbs and AWD should launch it quite effectively even in gravel.

[Shredder]

Originally posted by my cow is cute:

^ Shrimp, next time try to be not so insulting and go back to fishing or whatever.Read up on WRC cars while youre at it ,lmao

I don't have to. Use your head. The fastest cars in the world do those times on asphault. There is MUCH LESS traction on a gravel surface. So use common sense and some of that gray matter between your ears, you'll realise that it's not possible. Try excelerating on a dirt road for real and come back here to talk ♥♥♥♥. Better yet watch some wrc on dirt on YT.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by Shrimp Jumbo:

Originally posted by my cow is cute:

^ Shrimp, next time try to be not so insulting and go back to fishing or whatever.Read up on WRC cars while youre at it ,lmao

I don't have to. Use your head. The fastest cars in the world do those times on asphault. There is MUCH LESS traction on a gravel surface. So use common sense and some of that gray matter between your ears, you'll realise that it's not possible. Try excelerating on a dirt road for real and come back here to talk ♥♥♥♥. Better yet watch some wrc on dirt on YT.

You have no idea what you're talking about. A 480bhp lightweight rally car can still give you whiplash on acceleration even in gravel. Period, end of story, NO arguments on that.

Yes acceleration is LESS on gravel, no one is arguing that, but that doesn't mean some of thse cars are STILL able to accelerate VERY fast.

[Madhun67]

^ yeah this is a fact ......................power vs weight is modeled wrong in pretty much all cars and grip is off, now lets just get it fixed .My wish is to have a proper sim and not an arcade game,which Codemasters is promising.Cars also do some "funny" things under braking, like there is too much grip and then when you tap brakes in corner at 20 mph you slide off the road lol.BTW i have owned 3 WRXs ,modded and driven plenty of gravel ,albeit badly lol

[Madhun67]

Shrimp again your stuff is OFF man.Youre off the hook and to sound more convincing you resort to insult me dude