Driving Force GT wobbling

[El Hondo]

I know the Logitech DFGT still isn't officially supported. Still I tried to get it to run nicely. For me the problem is that the wheel is massively wobbling left and right as soon I drive faster than 50 km/h, making it impossible to control any car. Even on tarred roads.
Have you experienced similar issues? Do you have good working setting?

Thank you!

[Paul196UK]

I have a G27 which is supported but I have recently had problems similar to what you describe.

[El Bastardo]

Hi, I have the same issue and even more. For me it feels like the co-driver is reaching over and tugging at my wheel since the FFB update. I set my wheel up accordingly to their blog post on their homepage, in windows and the logitech driver software but it's still unplayable imo. If you turn down self-aligning torque (or so) to 0% the wobble goes away, but so does 95% of the forcefeedback. The only thing you can feel after that through your wheel are the jumps. I had no problem with the FFB before the update, it was not good granted but it was playable. My friends even compared it to the FFB of assetto corsa, where as I could only shake my head and wonder what went wrong.
Does anyone have the same issues?

[Rydychyn]

Just got the game today, wobbling for me too, using DFGT.

EDIT: I'm using this as an excuse if I do bad.

[El Hondo]

@Rydychyn: nice workarund

I hope they will fix this soon. Other codemaster games like GRID don't have those issues on the DFGT.

[Paul196UK]

it almost feels like it slides side to side as if on ice especially the tarmac stages. Also the steering wheel isnt returning to centre and you havent got steering after making a turn on a sharp corner.

[JakeURb8ty]

Sounds like your steering is over sensitive. Have you guys set the logitech profiler to 900 deg? Freinds and myself have had problems with windows not telling the game the true rotation of my wheel.

To test it you can force it by going into the logitech profiler >Options>Global device settings. Under wheel settings set rotation to 900 degrees. In game use soft lock to have the game use the correct real world car wheel lock values.

[Rydychyn]

Thanks Cobalt, that does seem to fix the problem, however I have to turn the wheel *much* further now to turn.

I do have a few question as I am new to using wheels.

What does the degrees of rotation do? I felt no difference except it felt harder to turn.
Why Soft Lock on? Again I felt no difference, is it better on or off?

[Arknor]

lower the wheel rotation until you find a setting you like.

I think the last time I played I was around 200-250 degrees and it felt really good and easy to maintain a straight line.

I had the awful zig zag in a straight line anytime I had the wheel any higher in this game, it's like it's almost impossible to straighten out the wheel

[Rydychyn]

Originally posted by Arknor:

lower the wheel rotation until you find a setting you like.

I think the last time I played I was around 200-250 degrees and it felt really good and easy to maintain a straight line.

I had the awful zig zag in a straight line anytime I had the wheel any higher in this game, it's like it's almost impossible to straighten out the wheel

It was on 200, turning it to 900 stopped it, 600 was minimal, and it was back at 400.

Change no more settings and now my wheel turns all loose which it didn't before. Don't know what happened.

[flagg]

I like to play with 720 degrees, but my LDFGT not work in Dirt Rally.

[kobeshow]

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/impact-force-feedback.6603/

install this and be happy (;

[El Hondo]

Originally posted by kobeshow:

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/impact-force-feedback.6603/

install this and be happy (;

Won't this be overwritten on every patch?

[Simon said EAT DUST PLAYER_1 !]

Originally posted by El ♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Originally posted by kobeshow:

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/impact-force-feedback.6603/

install this and be happy (;

Won't this be overwritten on every patch?

Well either with the next patch -- or -- when doing a "validate local game content" or however it's called.

BUT: it is easy enough to change back again. Also: best practice is to keep an un-molested copy of the original file someplace safe, in case things go south or indeed: you don't like what the mod gives you. The most simple idea is to make a copy of the two files that the mod aims to replace and and then add a meaningful suffix/syllable to the filename of the copies, so that you remind yourself for later reference what those are and where to find them.

Keep in mind that this game is actively being worked on still for the next ~5 months, if not longer. That is what real "early access" means. It is not finished yet. Also the impact V5 mod has two parts. The most-important part is the modified effectsetup.xml file. The other file is optional and will affect the feel of your wheel some more. Read up on the mod when you have questions. TemplarGFX thread is pretty exhaustive.

With that out of the way: ffb is a combination of scientific art and personal feel and oppinion. One part is "how the game deducts and generates forces" plus "the electro-mechanical and mechanical properties of your exact wheel" and the other is: How you perceive the stuff that you ultimately get to feel in your hands.

So yes: highly subjective when it comes to the actual feel, yet also not entirely "generic" looking at it from the technology point of view. Even in real cars, not every car feels like the next one. Even tyre- and rim sizes on otherwise identical cars can have an enormous impact on feel and steering-forces. As can tyre-models itself. Then there are differnt suspension-designs and -settings.
So when you compare to "your typical car" while debating how you judge the in-game ffb-forces, you are already introducing a common point of error.

[Montago]

Originally posted by Nutters22000:

I have a G27 which is supported but I have recently had problems similar to what you describe.

i love this game so much that im considdering upgrading to G27... but from what you say and others too, the problems i have is on all wheels... :(

[Simon said EAT DUST PLAYER_1 !]

Originally posted by Montago:

Originally posted by Nutters22000:

I have a G27 which is supported but I have recently had problems similar to what you describe.

i love this game so much that im considdering upgrading to G27... but from what you say and others too, the problems i have is on all wheels... :(

remind us of what exact wheel it is that you think about replacing? People have a habit of talking about their experiences, you know?