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Ghost 20/out./2015 às 21:10
Unlock everything
I recently came accross this article on kotaku that argues "Locking up video game levels is archaic." Here is a link to the site All Games Should Unlock Every Level Right Away

Their argument and Dara O'Briain argument (he is in a video on that site) goes something like this:

You buy a book and no one is stopping you from going to the last chapter unless you read everything prior to that, you buy an album and no one prevents you from listening to the last track unless you already listened to all the other tracks in order.

That got me thinking perhaps we should discuss this on here. I guess custom races have all the cars unlocked; however, if I would like to do a Championship with a particular car, I need to collect money and buy that car. That means I need to play with some other car that I may not want to race with.

So what do you guys think? Which locked up part of Dirt ticks you off the most and you would like to see opened right from the start.
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Sierain 21/out./2015 às 6:12 
Escrito originalmente por CalUKGR:
Riiiiight, but that comes right back to the OP's point: why should we have to work for it? I love this game (I genuinely consider it the best Rally game I've ever played), but I really resent the fact that it takes me absolutely ages to grind my way up to any serious amount of money with which to buy the necessary cars for Championship or online challenge races.

As has been stated, there is the custom event. For online events: Daily is the same for everyone and the point of owners' club events is that you own the car. You don't need to own the car to drive it in pvp rallycross events. But yeah, I agree that the upgrade system feels kinda artificial. You can fully upgrade a car in a few races though.

Things have changed. Gamers want access to content they have paid for and do not want it hidden behind pointless obsticles.

Don't say "gamers" when you're talking about your own opinion. I believe everyone playing this game is a gamer.
Sierain 21/out./2015 às 6:14 
Escrito originalmente por Oyster:
And also yes, it's really a pain in the arse having to farm 500k for a Fiesta

I never even "farmed" for any cars. Simply progressed one class at a time.
Arya 21/out./2015 às 6:17 
Escrito originalmente por Ghost:
So what do you guys think? Which locked up part of Dirt ticks you off the most and you would like to see opened right from the start.

What a lazy bum!

I played for 200 hours, and now I have so much money that I literally don't know what to do with it all. I've bought every car, and most of them are fully upgraded. I'm actually tempted to delete my saved game and start again, to see how quickly I can re-amass my multiple millions. My guess is around 15 hrs.
Blink 21/out./2015 às 6:17 
Escrito originalmente por CalUKGR:
Escrito originalmente por Porkhammer:
Then play until you have the money. There are plenty of other faceroll games out there, and luckily DR isn't one of them. You only get stuff after actually working for it.

Riiiiight, but that comes right back to the OP's point: why should we have to work for it?

Why indeed. That is the problem with todays generation of younger people, and gamers in general. They don't want to work for anything, not even in something as faceitious as a game.

You know what I used to do in the 90s?

Play DOOM with cheat codes. Its fun for a little bit, but then it got boring as hell.

No challenge, no sense of progression, not sense of accomplishment. No satisfaction at having worked hard for something.

Games are meant to challenge you, while being fun at the same time. DiRT Rally is one of the hardest games I have played in a long time. I curse and scream at the monitor when something goes wrong, because I want to do the very best I can.


I've seen these articles from supposed "games journalists" come out and I just shake my head. Because its all part of the "me me me, muh feelz" generation, who have this warped, vapid sense of entitlement about -everything- in their life.

Most sane people read articles like that and just laugh - because it is the only defense we have left.
Oyster 21/out./2015 às 6:19 
Escrito originalmente por BlinkRape:
I curse and scream at the monitor when something goes wrong, because I want to do the very best I can.

This. I don't curse that much to a game since Darkwing Duck's final boss.
Última edição por Oyster; 21/out./2015 às 6:20
a basic bitch 21/out./2015 às 6:47 
Challenge and reward? No Thank You.
Arya 21/out./2015 às 7:00 
Escrito originalmente por BlinkRape:
Why indeed. That is the problem with todays generation of younger people, and gamers in general. They don't want to work for anything, not even in something as faceitious as a game.

We're not all like that. I agree mostly with what you said, but it doesn't apply to all young people. The same way that not all older gamers are arrogant and convinced that their age somehow makes them more cultured and wise than their younger coutnerparts.

Speaking for myself, if a game doesn't challenge me and push my abilities, I usually walk away within a couple of hours. The games that grab me are the hard ones, the ones with progression and depth and a sense of exploration.

Porkhammer 21/out./2015 às 7:02 
Escrito originalmente por CalUKGR:
Riiiiight, but that comes right back to the OP's point: why should we have to work for it?

Because lazy bums are frowned upon.
pennarguy 21/out./2015 às 8:04 
Most games you can find something to do that satisfies your needs. In DiRT RALLY play Custom and you can have it all, just as you please.
Some people are never happy about stuff....
DiRT RALLY caters for all in my opinion and them that moan will moan...bar humbug.:steambored:
Sierain 21/out./2015 às 9:20 
Escrito originalmente por Not Lucien:
Speaking for myself, if a game doesn't challenge me and push my abilities, I usually walk away within a couple of hours. The games that grab me are the hard ones, the ones with progression and depth and a sense of exploration.

My thoughts exactly. It's a matter of preference. The whole point of a game depends so much on the genre, it's plain insanity to make a claim like "ALL games should unlock EVERY level right away" and compare them to movies and books. This is going a bit off-topic, but gameplay, good controls and challenges are the main reasons for me personally to play a game. I never really cared for stories and fancy graphics.
Saldas 22/out./2015 às 2:10 
I love a challenge. I love to work to get something. I never used any cheat in any game. There are some games you can get by buying some stuff for real money (for example a better gun in some shooters) but if there is an option to get it by simply grinding the experience I'll choose the second one. Not because I can't afford it but because I want to earn it. I love a challenge in this game too. I have lots of money in the game because I want to master every class before I move onto the next one. I reached master championship with 1960s. When I'll manage top3 in masters champ I'll move on to 1970s and so on. On my way I will buy every car and fully upgrade it. When I will pick one I like the most and try to master the championship.
Oh, by the way, I don't use restart too even if I dnf or facing the demotion.
This game is a simulator so I want to play it more or less the same way as if I would be a young rally driver in real life trying to conquer the world of rally.
Última edição por Saldas; 22/out./2015 às 2:30
CalUKGR 22/out./2015 às 3:51 
Escrito originalmente por BlinkRape:
Escrito originalmente por CalUKGR:

Riiiiight, but that comes right back to the OP's point: why should we have to work for it?

Why indeed. That is the problem with todays generation of younger people, and gamers in general. They don't want to work for anything, not even in something as faceitious as a game.

Well, for the record, I'm actually 52. I'm flattered you count me as a 'young person', so thanks for that, but in all seriousness I'm simply arguing that not all of us have hours and hours of free time to spend grinding away trying to unlock stuff. One poster here has admitted he's put in over 200 hrs to unlock everything. You know what? That's great and good luck to him. I don't happen to have 200hrs available to achieve the same.

See what I mean?
Arya 22/out./2015 às 4:33 
200 hours to unlock and perfect everything. And that's doing it the very, very slow way.

If I wanted to, I suspect I could unlock everything in around 20 hours. Progression here is very fast; plough through some early Championships in a Fulvia(2-3 hours tops) and then buy a 405. Do the same thing in Hillclimb, and within literally a couple of hours(another 3-4) you've got a literal cash fountain.

And don't even get me started on Rallycross. The amount of cash I make through that is ridiculous. In the best way possible.

Bottom line is, you don't need to obsess over the game or go to extreme lengths to unlock everything. You just need to not be lazy. So I suggest you light a fire under your ass; if you were more motivated you'd probably be halfway done by now.

EDIT: Oh come on Steam, are we really censoring common(ish) American sayings now?
Última edição por Arya; 22/out./2015 às 4:34
a basic bitch 22/out./2015 às 5:30 
Escrito originalmente por CalUKGR:
Escrito originalmente por BlinkRape:

Why indeed. That is the problem with todays generation of younger people, and gamers in general. They don't want to work for anything, not even in something as faceitious as a game.

Well, for the record, I'm actually 52. I'm flattered you count me as a 'young person', so thanks for that, but in all seriousness I'm simply arguing that not all of us have hours and hours of free time to spend grinding away trying to unlock stuff. One poster here has admitted he's put in over 200 hrs to unlock everything. You know what? That's great and good luck to him. I don't happen to have 200hrs available to achieve the same.

See what I mean?

Why do you think you deserve things without the effort?
Meszes 22/out./2015 às 5:37 
Escrito originalmente por CalUKGR:
See what I mean?

I see that in custom events everything is unlocked.
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