Audi Quattro in Finland is impossible

[wolfe]

The car is too light, it seems to hang so long over the jumps, hits a small bump in the road and the nose points skywards, then when it lands it rocks back and forth like a bloody craddle, so unrealistic,
Its wheelbase isnt that short !!!

[Mukatahren]

I agree with everybody about setups, but the cars staying airborne for too long has been an apparent issue since V2 physics was introduced and is widely reported. I'd love to hear how a setup is going to prevent this from happening.
Alternatively I'd like to hear the devs squash the 'misonception' that this phenomenon is occuring at all and explain exactly why the cars only 'seem' like they stay airborne for too long over small and big jumps and bumps.
If the physics are far enough removed from reality it is not possible to have a debate comparing the issue to real life issues with real life cars.
Somebody who is new to the game isn't going to be served well by information posted by the apologists if the information isn't based on fact - so it would be nice to get the facts straight first.

[rob_every05]

The jump physics in the Group B cars are a total shambles let's be honest

I was just doing Jyrksigarbage and managed about 10 runs in a Delta S4 got into about 80th place on default setups. Nice, predictable jumps, fairly easy to drive and controllable.

Tried the same in the 205 and gave up after about 10. It was like driving a rubber ball, all over the place, totally different weight, jumps characteristics and skitting about as if the steering was faulty.

They have similar configurations these two cars, they competed fairly equally on the stages, yet in this game the 205 is evil and the Delta is fairly tame.

If you know your GpB you will know that this is COMPLETELY wrong, it was the 205 that was easier to drive and the Delta that was damn hard work.

Back to school Codies, back to school.

[Blink]

I drove the car OK in Finland using Ivy's setup around a month ago.
Not that I'm the greatest driver in the world, but I managed to keep it under control.

I even did a barrel roll for fun (just for fun, honest)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw0yI3f-Bvo

[Randomheppu]

Publicado originalmente por Aurora:

If it understeered any more it would only drive in straight lines

Problem is more in rear grip. Rear tyres grip is way too arcade and won't add the problem what rally drivers are dealing with. Rear have first too less grip and car is not understeering at all. So quite arcade it is. There is also a lot of more but this is the case why it does not understeer enough.

[lolschrauber]

Publicado originalmente por flagg:

Publicado originalmente por Aurora:

You both need to learn setups.

What is needed is to correct the errors of the game.
The sect, as usual, being ridiculous.

Too long jumps making it impossible? Brake before the jump then.

[Haris]

Publicado originalmente por Aurora:

You both need to learn setups.

^^^
This...
With proper car setup, i was getting top 50 stage times easy... And iam not really good in DR, still a lot to learn...

[flagg]

Publicado originalmente por lolschrauber:

Publicado originalmente por flagg:

What is needed is to correct the errors of the game.
The sect, as usual, being ridiculous.

Too long jumps making it impossible? Brake before the jump then.

It is a fault of the game.
If I have to brake in the crest, I will never do a good time.
The record jump in Finland is about 57m. In DR, jump 90m without a muss.

[flagg]

Publicado originalmente por lolschrauber:

Publicado originalmente por flagg:

What is needed is to correct the errors of the game.
The sect, as usual, being ridiculous.

Too long jumps making it impossible? Brake before the jump then.

The game has errors. It is not a configuration problem. In Montecarlo I have to pull handbrake to take a sharp curve. In Ice :)))))

[wolfe]

Publicado originalmente por HeiT:

Publicado originalmente por Aurora:

You both need to learn setups.

^^^
This...
With proper car setup, i was getting top 50 stage times easy... And iam not really good in DR, still a lot to learn...

This will not stop the front of your car looking skywards over a small rise

Even in the viodeo someone posted of a good setup you can see the cars nose lifting over most bumps

[Stig Lennart]

Publicado originalmente por flagg:

Publicado originalmente por lolschrauber:

Too long jumps making it impossible? Brake before the jump then.

It is a fault of the game.
If I have to brake in the crest, I will never do a good time.
The record jump in Finland is about 57m. In DR, jump 90m without a muss.

Yes, there is a fault with the physics showing little gravitational force. However, this is not hard to deal with at all. As was said, properly setup dampers (quick setup tips are easy to find) will provide a stable ride. Plenty others can deal with it and CM has acknowledged the need for improved gravity. There's no point to keep mentioning the same problem over and over again.

Also, proper setups have always been the key for good times in any racing game that allows adjustment. And setups are personal so if you want to be fast you'll have to invest some time... seems a tough thing to ask of gamers nowadays...

[flagg]

Publicado originalmente por Blok89:

Publicado originalmente por flagg:

It is a fault of the game.
If I have to brake in the crest, I will never do a good time.
The record jump in Finland is about 57m. In DR, jump 90m without a muss.

Yes, there is a fault with the physics showing little gravitational force. However, this is not hard to deal with at all. As was said, properly setup dampers (quick setup tips are easy to find) will provide a stable ride. Plenty others can deal with it and CM has acknowledged the need for improved gravity. There's no point to keep mentioning the same problem over and over again.

Also, proper setups have always been the key for good times in any racing game that allows adjustment. And setups are personal so if you want to be fast you'll have to invest some time... seems a tough thing to ask of gamers nowadays...

Weightlessness and the sensation of driving a hovercraft, touching the parameters of the suspension not fixed .
I've tried. I tried a thousand things.
It does not work.
I'm waiting for version 2.0 of the game.

[RallyCarDelta]

The group B cars with a stiff setup (goes soft when needed) are a BLAST on Finland. Its probably the most fun (for me) location for Group B in the game.

[Stig Lennart]

Publicado originalmente por flagg:

Publicado originalmente por Blok89:

Yes, there is a fault with the physics showing little gravitational force. However, this is not hard to deal with at all. As was said, properly setup dampers (quick setup tips are easy to find) will provide a stable ride. Plenty others can deal with it and CM has acknowledged the need for improved gravity. There's no point to keep mentioning the same problem over and over again.

Also, proper setups have always been the key for good times in any racing game that allows adjustment. And setups are personal so if you want to be fast you'll have to invest some time... seems a tough thing to ask of gamers nowadays...

Weightlessness and the sensation of driving a hovercraft, touching the parameters of the suspension not fixed .
I've tried. I tried a thousand things.
It does not work.
I'm waiting for version 2.0 of the game.

well what did you try? for example, did you try the damper settings as pointed out in this topic:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/310560/discussions/5/483366528907855586/
these simple(!) tips will allow any car to handle the finland jumps at top speed or very close to it.

All i've seen you do is blame the game for everyything so far...

[flagg]

Publicado originalmente por Blok89:

Publicado originalmente por flagg:

Weightlessness and the sensation of driving a hovercraft, touching the parameters of the suspension not fixed .
I've tried. I tried a thousand things.
It does not work.
I'm waiting for version 2.0 of the game.

well what did you try? for example, did you try the damper settings as pointed out in this topic:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/310560/discussions/5/483366528907855586/
these simple(!) tips will allow any car to handle the finland jumps at top speed or very close to it.

All i've seen you do is blame the game for everyything so far...

The game have errors. Everyone knows the flaws it has.
The configuration is useless. The car slid on the road as if the road have a layer of butter.
And gravity is like on the moon.
This does not fix any configuration. I have tried thousand. It does not work.

[Stig Lennart]

Publicado originalmente por flagg:

Publicado originalmente por Blok89:

well what did you try? for example, did you try the damper settings as pointed out in this topic:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/310560/discussions/5/483366528907855586/
these simple(!) tips will allow any car to handle the finland jumps at top speed or very close to it.

All i've seen you do is blame the game for everyything so far...

The game have errors. Everyone knows the flaws it has.
The configuration is useless. The car slid on the road as if the road have a layer of butter.
And gravity is like on the moon.
This does not fix any configuration. I have tried thousand. It does not work.

why are you even responding on this forum if you won't accept any help anyway...