Real rally car steering wheel degrees?

[Roscoe]

What degrees do rally cars run at coz im seeing all these wheel setups with 270 and i think thats wrong and basically cheating. i thought open wheelers run at 270?

[Rookie-31st]

540 to 900

If you think that lower degrees is cheating, what about gamepads and keyboards?

[silencer]

How is giving yourself higher sensitivity and less room for error in correction (by using a low degree wheel where say 1 degree equals 2 actual degrees in the car) cheating? :F

EDIT: And yeah, as said above, depending on class its usually 540 and up.

[Rookie-31st]

Some racing games, especially oriented heavily toward console market, tend to be tuned for gamepads. In such cases, using steering wheel is pretty much a disadvantage unless degree of rotation is low.

[wolfe]

Originally posted by Roscoe:

What degrees do rally cars run at coz im seeing all these wheel setups with 270 and i think thats wrong and basically cheating. i thought open wheelers run at 270?

Real rally cars do change there pinion gears on the steering racks to reduce the steering input required

[Meszes]

Real rally cars featured in the game use 540° to 1080°.

[Cyroch]

If you want maximum authenticity, I suggest going with 900 degress and softlock on. That sets the wheel to the appropriate DoR per car. I run it that way, just because it feels most satisfying to me.

If you want to set the best times and hit the leaderboards, just set it to whatever works best for you.

In any case, there is no cheating involved one way or the other.

[flagg]

I like to play with 720 °.
Normal modern cars would be 540 °.
270º, no.

[Plaskus]

"Most common "family cars" around 2.7 to 3.2 turns lock-to-lock, which is about (according to Excel) 972 to 1152 degrees of steering.

Most sports cars are around 2.5 (900 degrees), while anything 720 or below is considered annoyingly twitchy on the road, unless of course the car in question is a Noble, which has the turning radius of a small continent.

Heck, many cars with steering racks that are 2.7 turns or less have huge turning radii.

1080 degrees is the most similar to an ordinary car, but 900 degrees is sufficient to feel similar to a road car on the racetrack."

I can also add that most WRC cars have around 540°

Source: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/real-life-steering-degrees.202903/

[Randomheppu]

I need to steer more than I feel it as correct. That's why I lower it to about 400°. Maybe if center ffb works better there won't be a lag to relize you need to counter steer.

[incriminated]

Even some F1-drivers use higher angle than regular F1.
Thats not cheating, but legit to the rules.

Also i wonder why in the world reducing precision (decreasing angle) may be cheating.

Yeah you can turn faster... if you think high centering-force (no servo :D ) and low angle is good for you and your wheel, GO FOR IT.

Why are some people hesitating to have to steer more than 180° and have to release one hand in few corners... again: if one not simulating wheel-resistance by ultra-high-centering-force...there is no problem removing one hand, taking the hairpin at high precision.

LOW angle is not just better because one got used to it... and changing may be hard to adopt, indeed, but one definetly going to drive better soon as he got adopted about how to drive a higher angle.

Low angle in F1 is ok for courses with less hard corners, no hairpins. But if you have those corners, a higher angle gives you lot higher precision to drive them succesully without twisting on the way out.

WRC uses 540° or higher.


While drifting... a really small difference in steering-angle can make a big difference when the car gaining grip on the outcome of the corner, with low angle, thats quite hard and sometimes you just shoot off or twist. . so at the end of the drift you should apply an angle to the wheel that puts you perfectly on line with the track. Try that on tarmac or snow with 180° at all :D

Cheat? Seems not.

[wolfe]

At no point in this video does he go past 400degree of steering, like i said rally cars have a different steering rack to normal production cars, even my road going Scooby RA1 had a different steering rack to the standard cars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WcHVkDXdpU

[incriminated]

So David Higgins is the only one driving rally-cars and his steering-angle is legit... worldwide ONLY :D

It can be changed according to drivers' likeness. ;)

Applies to F1...
Applies to WRC...
Applies to any other soapbox ...
:D

There are hundreds of threads of this kind in about any racing-forum out there.

[wolfe]

Originally posted by incriminated:

So David Higgins is the only one driving rally-cars and his steering-angle is legit... worldwide ONLY :D

You honestly think you got time to shuffle the steering wheel in rally cars ??

Anyway ive driven rally cars and felt the steering lock, so i will head out of here and let you all argue amongst yourselves

[incriminated]

Of course do i have timefor that... because you do that before you race during testing. Then you stick to it. Stupor!

[Baldrick]

It isn't cheating. It feels a bit weird though compared to a real car being able to apply so much steering so quickly, hence I run with the authentic setting (900 & soft lock on).I agree with the other poster who says that lots of steering is very effective - way beyond slip angles.