(review) Logitech MOMO vs G29

[Montago]

The first 100 hours or so i played this game with a Logitech MOMO Racing Force (black version) and was happy with the FFB model in version 0.40 of Dirt Rally - back then the SAT forces was not part of the FFB model and the game felt more like Dirt 2 or similar games.

in version 0.40 all you felt was grip and the rattle from road surface - it was awesome..

0.45 came along with SAT and i almost lost all joy in the game... i actually almost abandoned the game... after some LOOOONG 3-4 months of trial and error i managed to make a FFB setup that worked and i began to feel joy again.

Then came Christmas 2015 and my wife gave me a G29 .. a few days later i purchased the H-shifter because it just felt it was missing.

After about 50-100 hours (not exactly sure), i've gotten used to the G29 and have found the right settings and setup for me:

- 540 degrees (i'm considering lowering this to 360~400)
- Paddle-shifters for gears, H-shifter for Handbrake and Clutch

SAT is no longer something i'm fighting against or struggling with, instead i find the FFB deadzone of the G29 to be my biggest concern.

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Fast forward until today...
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I wanted to try the old MOMO again, just to feel the difference...

OH MY GOD
it's just rubbish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- 270 degrees is not the biggest problem, you get used to the low degrees quite fast and it's actually a benefit most of the time because of the fast reactions.

- But the wheel feels cheap, the paddle shifters feel too light, the foot pedals feels cheap and too soft, the wheel is too small, the FFB is terrible, the constanst drag from the motor is annoying.

In total if feels just as old and outdated as it is... like a 15 year old FFB Wheel..

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After re-experiencing the MOMO with Dirt Rally, i wouldn't blame CM for not supporting MOMO wheels... although i DID enjoy the game (somewhat) when it was the only thing i had.

To everyone who consider upgrading to G27 or G29 from something similar to MOMO:

DO IT !!!

[Mukatahren]

The Momo is a great wheel - and a part of gaming history - but as you say, it belongs in an earlier era.

[Diwiak]

:-D, yes, biggest difference is some three hundreds of $$$(new graphic card) and 15years :-D

MOMO is still great wheel for some 30$ in good condition, with proper setting I dont feel any troubles even in DIRT

[Montago]

like i said... i enjoyed the game over some 100 hours - although struggling with SAT (like most people)

if i never would have gotten the G29, i wouldn't have known how big difference there is to better wheels and what i was missing.

I actually drove faster with the MOMO than i do today - because the SAT FFB makes the game harder than it should be.

[Ahroovi]

Really like the new buttons on the G29 wheel. Really hate how it costs so much more than the G27 AND doesn't come with a freaking H shifter. AND, how the H shifter is super expensive too and doesn't even have buttons on it like the G27's.
Logitech really dropped the ball on their new wheel.

[Meszes]

Moral of the story, you married the right girl.

[MagicMop]

I had a MOMO for the first couple of months with DiRT Rally and like you, I loved it! I moved over to a cheapo second hand G25 after that and never look back.

I sold my MOMO after getting the G25, so I can't go back - but your story makes me feel pretty good about that fact. :)

Cheers.

[Montago]

Originally posted by Ahravi the waff:

Really like the new buttons on the G29 wheel. Really hate how it costs so much more than the G27 AND doesn't come with a freaking H shifter. AND, how the H shifter is super expensive too and doesn't even have buttons on it like the G27's.
Logitech really dropped the ball on their new wheel.

I completely agree.

G29 is too expensive - but the price is dropping quite fast. so eventually it might match the hardware like the G27

Buttons and layout on the G29 is pretty good - but only if you sit in front of a TV playing PS4 - most of the buttons are impossible to use while driving.

And i also miss more buttons on the H-Shifter ... which is too expensive and ridicolous that you have to buy separately... the Mechanics of the H-Shifter also feel cheap... but it works.

The thing i've missed the most is the Gear-lever that i had on the MOMO.. it was perfect for Handbrake.

[lolschrauber]

First wheel I owned myself was a T500. Feels great, people even say it's a lot better than the G27. But it's pricy and has the disadvantage of stationary paddles and no shifter included. :(

[Diwiak]

..and small OT-what wheel would do you recommend to swap from MOMO - and lets speak anout NEW ones, not used. G29 looks great, but its @#$^&$ expensive, dont want to spend price of a whole PC upgrade into wheel.

[Ahroovi]

Originally posted by Diwiak:

..and small OT-what wheel would do you recommend to swap from MOMO - and lets speak anout NEW ones, not used. G29 looks great, but its @#$^&$ expensive, dont want to spend price of a whole PC upgrade into wheel.

G27

[Diwiak]

G27 not on sale anymore, only used..

[Montago]

Originally posted by lolschrauber:

First wheel I owned myself was a T500. Feels great, people even say it's a lot better than the G27. But it's pricy and has the disadvantage of stationary paddles and no shifter included. :(

Believe me... stationary paddles is what you want.

When my G29 rotates 270 degrees because of some spin-out and i need to shift down or up.. then i make mistakes all the time because it's impossible to know what paddle is up and which is down.

stationary paddles is therefore much better !

[Montago]

Originally posted by Diwiak:

..and small OT-what wheel would do you recommend to swap from MOMO - and lets speak anout NEW ones, not used. G29 looks great, but its @#$^&$ expensive, dont want to spend price of a whole PC upgrade into wheel.

A wheel will live longer than 3 generations of PC's, so in that sense it is quite cheap.

and BTW... a wheel IS a PC upgrade :D

[Meszes]

Originally posted by Diwiak:

..and small OT-what wheel would do you recommend to swap from MOMO - and lets speak anout NEW ones, not used. G29 looks great, but its @#$^&$ expensive, dont want to spend price of a whole PC upgrade into wheel.

If you're into new ones, then have a look at the T150. Seems like good value for that price but only time will tell how durable it is.

[Ahroovi]

Originally posted by Diwiak:

G27 not on sale anymore, only used..

Amazon, look for new ones on there. Unopened packages.
Lots of products are discontinued, but you can still get new ones.