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rage_vapourz Jun 8, 2016 @ 12:44am
should i put my steering wheel to 360 degrees?
title ^^. would 360 degrees turning be like real life? good for practicing drifting? thanks
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DumbCatFace Jun 8, 2016 @ 2:59am 
depends on the car. WRC cars use 540, some other cars use 900. I'm always set at 520, though I've gone through all sorts. 360 is not bad.
phillgill Jun 8, 2016 @ 3:48am 
I use 520 also from day 1 (G27)
200-540 for most people. depending on wheel you have. 540 is most often recommended.
max Jun 8, 2016 @ 4:14am 
I use 720. I've heard that some people use even more and apply saturation...
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Oyster Jun 8, 2016 @ 5:35am 
Have in mind that smaller rotations make the driving more twitchy. It may be good to modern cars, but there'll be a price to pay with others, like the 037 or other RWD cars.
Pimp Jun 8, 2016 @ 7:40am 
i use 900 and apply 45% saturation. find this gives best FFB
Arya Jun 8, 2016 @ 8:43am 
Realisticaly you're better off with a wider rack for drifting. Drifting is all about smooth, precise steering and keeping the car stable. Anything below 720 degrees would probably be too twitchy to be truly effective.

Narrowing the steering angle can have serious drawbacks. Narrower angles are responsive and take less effort, but below 540 degrees they're badly inaccurate on gravel - it's difficult to apply the correct steering angle, which usually results in bad understeer and consequently slower stage times. It also applies the angle very quickly, with identical effects - more understeer.

It also upsets the car's balance, which is an even bigger problem. Whenever you turn, the car's weight shifts onto the outside wheels - turn left and the weight goes to the right. Now, if you've got an extremely twitchy wheel chances are you'll be snapping the weight back and forth very rapidly as you make corrections. That's bad - not only can it spin you out, Rally cars have tall suspension and a lot of body roll. You'll be flopping around like a boat at sea.

Which is precisely why you want a wide rack for drifting. An ideal drift is a very gentle, progressive thing: you actually want to make as few hand movements as possible, and let the car's weight carry it through the slide. Most of your angle control is done with the accelerator, which you modulate while holding the wheel fairly still. A 720+ degree wheel makes that much, much easier - you can more easily find the equillibirum point, which is a wider band, and it's also more accurate.

Note:

A 360 degree whee is normally used on Formula One cars and World Endurance Prototypes. These are very specialised cars - their chassis and suspension designs mean they're less vulnerable to rapid weight shift and produce very little body roll. In layman's terms, you can be a lot more aggressive with the steering - a 360 degree rack doesn't cause them any of the problems it would for a 'normal' metal bodied car.
Last edited by Arya; Jun 8, 2016 @ 8:47am
OTHG_Backroads Jun 8, 2016 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by Pimp:
i use 900 and apply 45% saturation. find this gives best FFB
Why Not just set your wheel rotation to 405* * (45% of 900*=405*) don't think that changes FFB
eddskitz Jun 8, 2016 @ 10:10am 
1080 or 900 and soft lock is really the only way to go. That way each car behaves how it's supposed to.
Baal Netbeck Jun 8, 2016 @ 10:33am 
I use 400 at the moment. It is twitchy, but I found it way better on cars like the 037 because I can countersteer very fast. It may be better for me, because thanks to a wall right behind my chair I have to sit 20 cm away from the wheel....makes it very hard to steer fast with high rotation degrees. Just try it out! set it to300...drive a few stages to get used to it in maybe two different cars awd and rwd.....then repeat it on 540, 720 and 900.......Soft lock option was confusing me too much....especially on dailys/wager events
Last edited by Baal Netbeck; Jun 8, 2016 @ 10:34am
Gaudin Jun 8, 2016 @ 10:35am 
Having read NotLuciens post, I thought, I give it a go - sounds all reasonable!

Tried 720, having an aftermarket 33cm Sparco wheel on a g27 feels quite a lot better than before used 360, forces way to strong, had to tune it all down quite a lot. And my times are horrid, its like learning THE WHOLE THING AGAIN! (and I just tried Finland, afraid of tight corners right now!)

Probably I will stick with it, feels more realistic, have to find the right FFB settings now.

Wondering if anyone has a similar setup and some tips regarding effects strength / FFB settings.
eddskitz Jun 8, 2016 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by Baal Netbeck:
Soft lock option was confusing for me too much....especially on dailys/wager events

That's because not every car has the same steering travel.
Pimp Jun 8, 2016 @ 10:52am 
Originally posted by OTHG_Backroads:
Originally posted by Pimp:
i use 900 and apply 45% saturation. find this gives best FFB
Why Not just set your wheel rotation to 405* * (45% of 900*=405*) don't think that changes FFB
Because it does seem to change the FFB for me..try it out
Also i started off at 40% and have now worked my way to 55%.

Short wheel rotation seems to give erratic FFB and 900 gives smooth FFB. so i think when i set it to 900 and reduce the saturation it tricks it and gives me a better FFB.
Also its a good way to get used to high rotation by moving it up a little day after day and still get the same FFB feeling
Last edited by Pimp; Jun 8, 2016 @ 11:01am
@lf Jun 8, 2016 @ 11:22am 
Use whatever wheel rotation you feel confortable, personally i use 360º. I can countersteer quickly with minimal effort, this way, and works for me.
You will have to try out and set on what you feel it's better for your playstyle, same thing with FFB settings. Some prefer a strong FFB, others a more light feeling on the wheel.
Baal Netbeck Jun 8, 2016 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by eddskitz:
Originally posted by Baal Netbeck:
Soft lock option was confusing for me too much....especially on dailys/wager events

That's because not every car has the same steering travel.
I'm aware of that....that's what soft lock does?!
I'm no native speaker so I don't know if i'm using the right terms.....soft lock reduces the maximum rotation of my steering wheel for some of the cars(the newer ones). but the maximum rotation of the front wheels is still the same. I'm not sure, but i think it is the same on all the cars, which is strange because that is not the case in the real world. I like it in raceroom, where I can change both rotations independent.
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