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SeriousSpy Oct 22, 2014 @ 11:46pm
How is the DRM?
Simple question really, what kind of DRM does this game have? Log-in? Always online?

In other words; if the developers and/or Steam went bust, and the servers went down, could we still play our game, or would we lose access to our content?
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skiiwa Oct 23, 2014 @ 12:21am 
I already own it but I to would like to know about this!
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SeriousSpy Oct 23, 2014 @ 12:22am 
Basically, I need a guarentee that I'll be able to play the game in 20 years time, it's just a principle I have.
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Santa Six Oct 23, 2014 @ 12:30am 
Stupid question. It's Steam. I sure you know how Steam works. IL2 is no different.
Your Key is glued to your Steam account.
These questions are always part of a hidden piracy question.
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skiiwa Oct 23, 2014 @ 12:36am 
Not a stupid question. some cames dont work in offline mode. As far as I can tell this hasnt been clarified yet and needs to be. 777 got ate alive about that always need to be connected crap with ROF which is why I didnt buy it till it was $20. I already own BOS and probably wont care either way as Its just not got what Im looking for. Going back to IL2 1946 and COD.
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SeriousSpy Oct 23, 2014 @ 1:10am 
Originally posted by Santa Six:
Stupid question. It's Steam. I sure you know how Steam works. IL2 is no different.
Your Key is glued to your Steam account.
These questions are always part of a hidden piracy question.
Why would I pirate a game? I have plenty of them. I just want to know that my content isn't going to be taken away from me in a few years, if the developers die.

I ask the same thing about any game that has DRM.
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weptalo Oct 23, 2014 @ 1:23am 
That DRM is for better service, not for restrictions of any kind. The campaign missions are generated on our servers and sent to your game client. That's why you need to be online to play campaign. There's also an offline mode, that's odd to hear that it's not there in your opinion.
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SeriousSpy Oct 23, 2014 @ 1:25am 
Originally posted by weptalo:
That DRM is for better service, not for restrictions of any kind. The campaign missions are generated on our servers and sent to your game client. That's why you need to be online to play campaign. There's also an offline mode, that's odd to hear that it's not there in your opinion.
I never said it's not there, I'm just wondering if the game would be playable at all if the servers would be shut down, which, lets face it, will happen eventually. (If you have an offline mode, I'm sure people would eventually crack it if you guys were to shut down, don't take that the wrong way)

I think I may pick this up at some point.
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weptalo Oct 23, 2014 @ 2:00am 
Originally posted by SeriousSpy:
I never said it's not there, I'm just wondering if the game would be playable at all if the servers would be shut down, which, lets face it, will happen eventually. (If you have an offline mode, I'm sure people would eventually crack it if you guys were to shut down, don't take that the wrong way)
Well, our previous project Rise of Flight released 5 years ago still has the servers up and running, and we are definitely not planning to shut down ROF or BOS. These are the only projects that we have so we're doing our best to have them online.
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SeriousSpy Oct 23, 2014 @ 2:14am 
Originally posted by weptalo:
Originally posted by SeriousSpy:
I never said it's not there, I'm just wondering if the game would be playable at all if the servers would be shut down, which, lets face it, will happen eventually. (If you have an offline mode, I'm sure people would eventually crack it if you guys were to shut down, don't take that the wrong way)
Well, our previous project Rise of Flight released 5 years ago still has the servers up and running, and we are definitely not planning to shut down ROF or BOS. These are the only projects that we have so we're doing our best to have them online.
Oh I'm not saying you're going to die out in the next 2 years, I'm just saying, you can't keep servers alive forever, look what happened to Gamespy.

I assume, though, if you did have to take the servers offline, you'd release a final patch to remove the DRM?
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pavig Oct 23, 2014 @ 2:27am 
BoS has an offline mode, though it is rudimentary at this time and only allows access to single scripted missions and quick mission generator. As I write the dedicated server is still in closed beta, and though access to the master server is required for matchmaking I imagine there would be ways of patching around that in future. Most of the online functionality of BoS isn't DRM per se, but due to things like the dynamic campaign, which downloads missions genrated on the master servers rather than generating locally.
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71st_Mastiff Oct 23, 2014 @ 2:34am 
seriously look what happen to game spy and those companys made a patch and fixed that issue. 777 Studios stated awhile back that all contient would be made available via a patch. if worse case senerio was to occer.
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Trupobaw Oct 23, 2014 @ 2:43am 
You need to be always online to play campaign and multiplayer (duh!), they are both handled by master server. Community-created SP missions should be working offline, but it's to early to say how much of what form will it take, with mission builder not yet released.

BoS is just taking off so buy in case of RoF devs said they will keep servers running after development is finished and that they will patch game to make it playable without servers if servers are ever shut down. IIRC.
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MechWorrier Oct 23, 2014 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by 71st_AH_Mastiff:
seriously look what happen to game spy and those companys made a patch and fixed that issue.
Some games were fixed, tons of others that used GameSpy masters servers were not, and can only be played online through vpn services/ lan/ or ya'know, evaded via piracy.

OP's question is fair enough, I like 777 and RoF but any kind of always online requirement should be met with skepticism. Glad to hear that quick missions and scenarios have offline, guess there might be more changes over time ala RoF.
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KodiakJac Oct 23, 2014 @ 8:10pm 
Originally posted by SeriousSpy:
I just want to know that my content isn't going to be taken away from me in a few years, if the developers die.

This is a reasonable concern and why I also don't like DRM. The BoS devs had a fit just a couple of weeks ago and threatened to kill the game and take it off everybody's hard drives:

http://imgur.com/BfMs7kQ
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MrPies Jan 29, 2020 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by weptalo:
That DRM is for better service, not for restrictions of any kind. The campaign missions are generated on our servers and sent to your game client. That's why you need to be online to play campaign.

Well this is clearly crap. There is absolutely no reason at all to generate the dynamic campaigns on your servers, other than to prevent piracy. That's fine if that is your goal but you should be transparent about it. And the proof is in the pudding - there is no cracked version of this game, so the DRM works.

For me I won't buy a game that might not work in 10 years time because your servers are down.
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