IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad

IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad

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Hi, I'm new to flight simulators, but I want to start with good hardware that won't outgrow me over the years.
What are the experts' recommendations (models)? VR, Pedals, Joysticks (HOTAS or others), etc.

TY all
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My advice is, if you want to get into PC-VR then build your system around that. Check YouTube for content creator 'VR Flightsim Guy.' He primarily concentrates on MSFS, a sim that can put a significant load on a PC. Air combat sims also stress PCs, but IMO IL-2 Stalingrad isn't the best benchmark for future-proofing your setup.

For reference, my flightsim rig is a Windows 10 machine I built myself, loaded with a i7-9700k CPU and an RTX 2080 Ti GPU. My VR HMD is the Reverb G2, and my "HOTAS" is a Microsoft Sidewinder 2 joystick that has been out of production for 15 years. My feet have never touched a rudder pedal. Hardly cutting edge, but I have little to no trouble dogfighting in IL-2 or flying routes in MSFS.
bear in mind, whatever you build, youll still be tweaking to get as many FPS as possible with most of the current combat sims and even then might not be able to get super smooth fps at all times.

Newer upcoming titles may well perform much better but some of these old titles can struggle in certain scenarios at higher gfx settings.
Cervecero Mar 24 @ 11:55pm 
I appreciate the responses. Sorry, both of you, I think my question was too general and I should have been more specific.

I have a latest-generation PC with an RTX 4070 Ti Super and a 27-inch 4K monitor. I was interested in purchasing peripherals for a good combat SIM (not FS). I was looking for recommendations on specific current models of HOTAS joysticks, pedals, VR headsets, etc., based on user experience with them in this game and similar games.

I'd like something really good that creates a good immersive feeling in the game, not a plastic joystick that breaks after a short time.

Ultimately, if you had to buy new current hardware, which one would you recommend?

Thanks again.
Originally posted by Cervecero:
I appreciate the responses. Sorry, both of you, I think my question was too general and I should have been more specific.

recommendations on specific current models of HOTAS joysticks, pedals, VR headsets, etc., based on user experience with them in this game and similar games.

I'd like something really good that creates a good immersive feeling in the game, not a plastic joystick that breaks after a short time.

Ultimately, if you had to buy new current hardware, which one would you recommend?

Thanks again.

Depending on the combat sims you want, I prefer ww1 & 2. VR gear is a mixed bag all different with pros and cons. I have an occulas rift S. Never had any issues though now this is old tech. Avoid wireless battery operated ones as the batteries only last a couple of hrs or so. My brother has the rift s, also got the new quest 3, he says it isn't as good as the S although clarity is slightly better, and battery only lasts a couple of hrs, suggest reading reviews on different types. What ever you get it will blow you away, and as a first time user you won't have any experience to determine what's better.

As for controllers again based on your game type, as I said I prefer ww1 and 2.
I have a custom built authentikit spitfire mk9 flight stick. This works for all stick flight planes, and double fire button. I also use generic foot rudder and brake peddles. And for engine management and some other quick buttons I use the honeycomb bravo throttle quadrant, it's ideal for single and twin engine craft, and can handle full engine management, also plenty of buttons to assign to other tasks, this is ideal for vr as you can't see your keyboard for settings etc.
If you want to spend a lot of money for top end peripherals, look into https://virpil-controls.eu/ especially for rudder pedals.

Thrustmaster Warthog has long been a top-shelf HOTAS. However, I found this video:
https://youtu.be/ckbgFZhdPek?si=UwTndQrvtJQHLpl5

Meta VR HMDs are currently the most affordable option I believe. You can easily double your expense on the next tier of quality. I believe the Pimax Crystal Light is the top contender to Quest 3 right now. Just stay away from WMR headsets like the Reverb G2, as they are no longer supported in Windows 11.
Last edited by shadowgravy; Mar 25 @ 7:13am
Virpil. great kit.

I recommend it over the Thrustmaster stuff as the TM looks and feels great but it's all show, the internals are poor.

For pedals, the MFG crosswinds.

Winwing stuff is cheap but has QA issues and poor support (allegedly)

My Q3 has served me well and is imho a great multipurpose bit of kit.
Last edited by -OrLoK- Слава Україн; Mar 25 @ 11:30am
Perkomobil Mar 25 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by shadowgravy:
My advice is, if you want to get into PC-VR then build your system around that. Check YouTube for content creator 'VR Flightsim Guy.' He primarily concentrates on MSFS, a sim that can put a significant load on a PC. Air combat sims also stress PCs, but IMO IL-2 Stalingrad isn't the best benchmark for future-proofing your setup.

For reference, my flightsim rig is a Windows 10 machine I built myself, loaded with a i7-9700k CPU and an RTX 2080 Ti GPU. My VR HMD is the Reverb G2, and my "HOTAS" is a Microsoft Sidewinder 2 joystick that has been out of production for 15 years. My feet have never touched a rudder pedal. Hardly cutting edge, but I have little to no trouble dogfighting in IL-2 or flying routes in MSFS.
Regarding the "IL-2 Stalingrad isn't the best benchmark for future-proofing"-bit:

My setup (good lord it's from 2018 and I am upgrading as soon as cash is acquired) is an..

i5-8400
8GB RAM
4GB VRAM GTX 1050Ti.

Now, you might be wondering "Wow, IL-2 (and any other game) must run like absolute dog!"

You'd be right. Buuut, on IL-2 (even more complex missions) I still get about 50-60FPS (and that's with mid-high settings!)
Yes, my point is you can get decent VR out of IL-2 BoS with 8th generation Intel CPUs and 10xx series Nvidia GPUs. Compare that to the recommended specs for MSFS 2024.
Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:
For pedals, the MFG crosswinds.
I couldn't remember MFG's name. I looked at the Crosswinds a while back with lust in my eyes.
Cervecero Mar 26 @ 11:56pm 
I appreciate all the comments, they are really useful for someone new in this field. You have discovered a new "pro" world for me although the prices left me glued to the seat for a long time ha!

Good point @Colmaniac: Indeed, the use I intend to give to the hardware is of WWI and WWII planes and I see the stick, gases and pedals essential. I'm afraid that the VR glasses will have to wait until later because of my limited budget.

Wingwing I think it doesn't have a distributor in Europe, and I like the comments and what I see about Virpil (although I don't know how it will be, I see that they are in Lithuania). I see that going to a mid-range will reduce performance but perhaps my initial pretensions will be curbed by my limited budget.

What would you recommend in this case as a "decent" mid-range for WWI/WWII dogfight? (Pedal and Hotas)

TY all again
https://amzn.eu/d/2KoPSZl

the Thrustmaster T16000m gets solid reviews.
both Virpil and winwing have UK/euro distributor sites
Yep! It is one of the models that caught my attention for the reviews and opinions. Obviously it is in a very different league from those that have been exposed above but it seems a good option at low cost.

Logitech X56 caught my attention but I have read reviews with bad experiences with the gas control
Last edited by Cervecero; Mar 27 @ 8:58am
Shawn Mar 28 @ 9:50am 
Op: Imo, I don’t think your approach of attempting to solve it all before you are familiar with the genre/game and peripherals is going to be successful. After all: you don’t know what you don’t know. Everything has trade offs and just because someone here likes something doesn’t mean you will.

Not to mention that if you go from no experience to a full suite of HOTAS with dozens and dozens of controls with rudder pedals you are going to be overwhelmed even trying to map the controls. And then good luck remembering where a specific control is afterwards!!

My suggestion would be to start with entry level controls and learn to use them. When you start to feel you are outgrowing those, the upgrade and your experience will inform you what you like.

Have fun, and enjoy the hobby!!
Absolutely. It's a logical point of view too, thanks.
Perhaps my initial intention of making a single, good, and definitive investment to avoid multiple purchases has a positive side, but there's no denying that what you're saying also makes sense.
That's why, in my last comment, I saw the T16000 as a good initial option in terms of cost/quality. And time will tell...
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