Thrustmaster T16000M FCS does this joystick have a throttle or...

[Eifel]

....do I have to get the extra throttle device? Thanks guys.

[Hootman]

Is your Google and Amazon broken?

[shadowgravy]

Well, to be fair the Google and the Amazon listings/reviews talk around what the slider on the flight stick can be used for, and jump straight to the awesomeness of the separate throttle/HOTAS unit. I assume the slider can be programmed as a throttle; but to me it looks to be an awkward placement for combat sims.

I found this product review though:

Bought this product to play flight simulator. The joystick has excellent feel and very smooth operation. I can program the slider for throttle and the various buttons for flaps radio switch, etc… The joystick comes with right handed installed by default but easily can be changed to left handed which is more natural for flying. Overall definitely worth it and also a great price!

https://www.microcenter.com/product/471492/thrustmaster-t-16000m-fcs-flight-stick

[Eifel]

Thanks Shadow...I kept reading that Amazon listing desperately looking for a description of that slider but to no avail, Even the Thrustmaster page doesn't want to play..oh well. I knew that there would be a level headed, informative, mature airplane jockey here to ask. We zoomies have to watch out for each other. Thanks Again!

[Belliqueu]

The slider on the flight stick can be used as a throttle, and is automatically mapped as such in some games (not this one). I highly recommend the extra throttle device, though. It has ALL the buttons. I love it

[Eifel]

Thanks Belliqueu...I am going to get this stick and the throttle.

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by Eifel:

Thanks Belliqueu...I am going to get this stick and the throttle.

Don't. It is completely outdated and doesn't have enough buttons on the stick itself to work in combat flight sims (especially more modern ones if you ever intend to play them).

The best budget stick right now is the VKB Gladiator NXT EVO. It's more expensive than a t16000000m but is simply far more functional. It also has a bunch of moddability so that you can continue to use it in other roles if you ever upgrade to a better stick, for example it can be turned into a single throttle for planes, into an omnithrottle for spacecraft, into a collective for helicopters, etc.

The TWCS throttle is pretty good for the price though, you should get it alongside the gladiator.


As an aside, of the two 160000ms I have owned (bought one before they were called that, back when they were green) both have had the throttle on the base of the joystick die. And quite quickly too.

[Belliqueu]

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

Originally posted by Eifel:

Thanks Belliqueu...I am going to get this stick and the throttle.

Don't. It is completely outdated and doesn't have enough buttons on the stick itself to work in combat flight sims (especially more modern ones if you ever intend to play them).

The best budget stick right now is the VKB Gladiator NXT EVO. It's more expensive than a t16000000m but is simply far more functional. It also has a bunch of moddability so that you can continue to use it in other roles if you ever upgrade to a better stick, for example it can be turned into a single throttle for planes, into an omnithrottle for spacecraft, into a collective for helicopters, etc.

The TWCS throttle is pretty good for the price though, you should get it alongside the gladiator.


As an aside, of the two 160000ms I have owned (bought one before they were called that, back when they were green) both have had the throttle on the base of the joystick die. And quite quickly too.

In DCS World, I use two modifier buttons assigned to the throttle to give me 3x the buttons on both stick and throttle. It really opens things up, especially since I only play in VR and can't really use the keyboard. I've had them for 2 years, and have never had a problem. I did modify the throttle with an upgraded impulse slider by CoreHawk3D. The OEM slider just sucks, and is the only bad part about the throttle. I barely use the slider on the actual stick. The awkward placement combined with the fact that I have the separate throttle makes it unnecessary. I have it set to propeller RPM currently.

The VKB Gladiator is a sweet looking stick, though. You've got me thinking about picking one up.

[Eifel]

Thanks much for the throttle advice. I was almost ready to "head out the door" to get one. Thanks to you guys I'll check out the Gladiator first