Is the Logitech 3D pro good for this game?

[Jared]

Assuming that this is a realistic flight sim, will the Logitech 3D pro be good for this game? And also would that be really the only thing i need to play or will i need some more ♥♥♥♥?

[shadowgravy]

https://youtu.be/eiaw9m-nEek

I've never used this stick; however my preferred joystick (the discontinued Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2) has similar functions and gives me most of what I need. Like Col Ninny in the video, I do not have rudder pedals or a separate HOTAS or throttle quadrant. So I vote that the Logitech 3D Pro a reasonably priced entry-level stick that I think you will get at least a few good years out of.

FWIW, I didn't need more functionality until I transitioned to VR where it is inconvenient to remove the headset during gameplay, and nearly impossible to use the keyboard with headset on. A HOTAS system is one solution. I use Voice Attack speech-to-keybinds software and I have almost all of the aircraft and vehicle subsystems profiled. I can change views, operate the radio menu, switch crew positions, operate weapon systems, etc., all by saying commands while I fly.

[@Dave@]

I got a Hotas X this has all thats needed and very robust . I used to have a logitech years ago i wasn t a big fan of it may be the design has changed now . Hotas X is also awesome in Elite Dangerous .

[Undead Rufus]

Originally posted by @Dave@:

I got a Hotas X this has all thats needed and very robust . I used to have a logitech years ago i wasn t a big fan of it may be the design has changed now . Hotas X is also awesome in Elite Dangerous .

The HOTAS X is comfortable for the money, but certainly not robust. It's plagued by thin wires and cheap solder, and tends to fail quickly under regular use. If you've had one that's lasted years, then count yourself lucky, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

[Shawn]

Originally posted by averageamerican:

Assuming that this is a realistic flight sim, will the Logitech 3D pro be good for this game? And also would that be really the only thing i need to play or will i need some more ♥♥♥♥?

Yes, I use one. It has a slider that can be mapped for the throttle and the stick has a twist that can be mapped to the rudder, so it can get you flying.

That said, getting a seperate throttle and rudder pedals will likely be in your future.

[Jared]

So should I buy the logitech, the HOTAS X, or the Sidewinder Precision 2? Also do I need anything else to really play this game or will all I need be is the joystick?

[shadowgravy]

The Sidewinder series was discontinued in 2003. I only mentioned the Precision 2 as a reference to the features I am familiar with. That said, used MS Sidewinder Precision 2 sticks are easily available on eBay (Link[www.ebay.com]). I bought a MiB copy a couple of years ago for about $40 and I've yet to use it ...the two thrift store Sidewinders I bought 15 and 10 years ago are still holding up really well. The Sidewinder Precision 2 joystick was a solid and very well made stick for its price point.

The Logitech sticks seem to have all the features you should need. However, it seems they wear out within a few years. I don't know anything about their construction. Honestly though, its low price and its availability make it a very attractive starting point.

This review may help you with your decison: https://www.windowscentral.com/best-joysticks-and-flight-sticks-microsoft-flight-simulator

The worst stick I've ever used was the Saitek Pacific AV8R. It looks cool and WWII fighter-ish, and actually feels solid, but unfortunately the spring-tension against gimbal does not allow a smooth range of stick travel. If you choose to buy a used stick, skip the Saitek AV8R series. I'd even be reluctant to try the Saitek Cyborg series.

Getting started though, you don't really need anything beyond a basic stick that offers X, Y and Z axis for pitch, roll and yaw control; throttle slider; HAT switch for panning or snapping your views; and programmable buttons for guns, bombs, rockets, brakes, flaps, landing gear, and zoom in/out.

[Shawn]

FWIW, I really like the Logitech stick. I've used one for close to a year. However, I intend to upgrade next year to a VKB flight stick.

I also have a HOTAS X. It is hardly used, because I hated it. YMMV.

[MMiicckkyy]

I have the Logitech 3D pro and Thrustmaster T.16000. The Thrustmaster has a higher resolution giving much smoother inputs. The Logitech has a noticeably lower resolution in my opinion, (unless because mine is faulty), but it's ok.

[Lee Enfield]

1,700 hours of flight hours and all with my Logitech 3D Pro and apart from it being a bit worn out and needs re calibrating before every flight session, it's been perfect for me (I am a heavy handed son of a gun though.) I can map everything I need to it for easy use when in the fight and the multitude of other things are keyboard mapped. Excellent stick for the cost.

[acdcdave1387]

The Logitech stick in question is the one I started with a long time ago and it was perfectly fine. I think it has enough buttons to enjoy this game without any issues. Isn't very expensive either so it is acceptable as a starter/budget buy.

[SeaJay73]

I've been struggling through with my Logitech Wingman Extreme.
(Also a lamenting fan of my incompatible moudlering pp MS Sidewinder that I WILL NOT throw away!)

It's ok for fighters using normal difficulty, but for CEM you will need a throttle.
Personally I got good at touch-typing a few essential keys for flying in VR until I gather enough spare change for a throttle quadrant.

I have found I need to decrease the sensitivity of my stick to basically zero as there's so much "play" when the stick is centred.

[duckweedseattle]

I got started using the Logitech 3D Pro and it worked great. I mapped pilot's head to the 4-way. It takes a little getting used to, but its super comfortable once you get the hang of it, because you can even sit on the couch and play. :-) My kids still use that stick when they play IL-2.

The only issue is that the 4-way wears out rather quickly when used a lot. It seems to be the #1 point of failure on this stick. I had one stick last about 5 months, and the second one lasted only about 3 weeks of semi-continuous use-(several hours of flight time per day on average) before the 4-way started acting funky. Everything else still worked great... I just have two sticks with broken 4-ways. I guess you get what you pay for... Still, for getting started, it offers good bang for the buck imo.

As I started to really get into the game, I realized I wanted head tracking and a better stick/throttle setup to take it to the next level. It took a while for TrackIR to "click" with me, but once it did, I couldn't imagine how I ever got on without it.

TrackIR + Logitech 3D would work great together imo, for those on a budget, because you would presumably map something less important / less used to the 4-way, so it wouldn't wear out nearly as fast.

fwiw I keep extra Logitech 3D Pro sticks on hand for when additional people join my home LAN as wingmates. At $30 per stick (and you can sometimes get them on sale for around $24) they are good to have around.