Wings Of Liberty Server Has Unreasonably Run

[Goatman455]

The Ban rules are not posted, there is nobody to contact, registration provides no contact info for anyone in charge...

I play on VR and it can be difficult to make out an enemy. This server has no tags and then has ambiguous and harsh pentalties for FF...

FF happens, it happened in war constantly, if you want to be harsh about it fine, but list your rules and allow someone to contact you in regards to them.

I am writing this because I have no recourse, there is no contact info, the forums they are linked to do not contain enough english for me to be able to translate and I can't find ANYONE's email who's in charge. All I found was one lone moderator, but no email, and no way to contact them.

Given the few choices in IL-2 Serves, this really sucks, I hope someone can fix this, or run another popular server more reasonably.

The real issue for me too, I haven't been banned, but I am now so scared to pull the trigger that by the time I get close enough to make out if it's an enemy or not, I've lost the initiative.

Not allowing people to FF bc they get upset is fine, but this is taking it too far, where people get banned for nothing, on the one english forum area I found (not sure how they manged to register and post, I tried every button) people were complaining about it, but of course they are being overly polite bc they are scared of being banned for nothing, but I like to be honest, and feeling unfairly treated doesn't make me feel humble, it makes me mad!

I absolutely love this game, and now I have no way of knowing what I am even being punished for or how long, I may be able to fire on a friend again, I may not, I have been warned, but for what exactly?

The rules are not clear, and you can't have any order or any control, when you make unclear and unreasonable rules.

Thanks for listening, I doubt I'll get any help on this here, but you never know.

[Disarray]

First off, I feel for you. The Wings' rules are a bit harsh at times. It dosen't help matters that the admin for the server was banned from the game's offcial forums. I'm not sure why that happend, but it may have had something to do with some friction between them and another group running a different, and in my opinion better, server.

For what it is worth the auto ban script they have in place on Wings is there for a good reason. People would come into the server, jump in a plane as a gunner, and shoot the tail of the plane off. People were understandably pissed about this so the admin team set about fixing it. They just went stupid overboard with the fix and aren't intrested in listening to anyone who dissagrees with them on that. I tried convincing them that a warning for the first FF insident would be better but they seem to prefer it this way. Maybe they never shoot the wrong plane by mistake or miss the tailing guy and hit a freindly, I don't know; though I rather suspect it has more to do with their being able to unban themselves.

You might find the Knights of the Air server a better alternative to Wings, though it is currently suffering from some tech issues that are being worked out. The missions are set up simmilarly to those of Wings, though they offer a lot more space between the front line and the spawn points. This results in a bit longer transit time to the front, which can be a little tedious in the slower planes, but the way it makes fights decisive more than makes up for it in my opinion. The admin team for the server is active and they enforce their rules with a more or less even hand. The other principal differance is you get more fredom to set up your plane the way you want, no silly locking of mirrors or bombs, and the position marker on the map is disabled. Having to navigate by map, landmark and compass is a bit of a chalange at first but becomes rather easy once you learn the trick fo it.

[Goatman455]

Ban systems are needed to an extent, but my point is, if you have a system in place you need to clearly outline the rules and publish them.

A great point here that you made was that the administrator has been banned from the game's official forums, that's a tell all.

We need some competition for them, maybe I should start a server, I have a decent PC I could use, how exactly does one go about starting one?

Yeah, I like Knights, but they don't seem to be as popular for whatever reason, maybe those tech issues you mentioned.

[Cynical Jester]

Sounds like you should work on your identification and learn the profiles etc. I can more often than not ID the aircraft as I'm rolling in on it. I've had a few FF incidents on WoL but have never been banned or kicked, I'm assuming because I realized as I squeezed the trigger and pulled off without destroying the aircraft.

Knights I don't think is as popular because it's more of a veteran server, people become so dependant with GPS on the map that they have no clue how to navigate the terrain.

If you want to start a server go for it but be ready for A LOT of work. Can't exactly seed in this game to get the server pop up.

[Porkchop]

tbh this game is basiclly dead.

There should be offical servers. anyways.

[cercata]

Originally posted by greatsuperfatman:

tbh this game is basiclly dead.

There should be offical servers. anyways.

I have been playing a huge amount of hours to a dead game the last 3 weeks !!!!!! XD

Honestly, I prefer the actual server system, so anyone can make a server with their rules.
I wouldn't hurt some servers by 1C ... but it's not a problem not having them

[Goatman455]

Sounds like you need to learn not to pull the trigger until you will kill your opponent ;)

Obviously IDing is more of an issue with Boom and Zoom than Burn and Turn (which it sounds like you are referring to)

Maybe it's just me, but I find it very difficult in VR (maybe if you have a VIVE PRO it's easier, not sure) to ID and bc you lose that initiative it's even worse.

Plus, that doesn't change the unreasonably run argument anyway, but there is my response to that.

As for the Knights server, that's definitely a good one, it came back online right around the time I wrote this and it's been pretty well populated. Thanks for that recommendation.

Fun game!

[NETSCAPE]

Play a different server. Their mission designs are garbage anyways.

[40+]

Originally posted by Anynamewilldo:

. . . The Ban rules are not posted . . .

http://il2stat.aviaskins.com:8008/en/info/